Margo is in Trouble

[Kiki]

OMG, I don’t know if I can do this.

Then don't.

 

[Bocktobery 10]

I don’t necessarily think it’s relevant, but I’m not sure why antibiotics are either. If she’s struggling with appetite a potentially unneeded antibiotic certainly won’t help. I would think other things for a lethargic but otherwise healthy bird would be tried first?

I’m just trying to follow the thought process of everything I guess. I’m about to reread the thread from the beginning for the third time lol.

Tesumph, I think I might have been the first to suggest antibiotics, but I was under the impression from what all I read that it sounded like EYP (I did not see the post about her laying an egg) and that if it was EYP, she could have had an internal tear or rupture. I didn't suggest the type of antibiotic, but did suggest a trip to the vet for correct medication and dosage as anything else would be a 'best guess' pitch.

Whenever I take my birds to the vet, antibiotics are typically given as a 'just in case'. I am also given a dewormer at the same time- My vet says this is to cover all the bases. Its not a bad thing to spring to antibiotics when a bird is sick, they sometimes can go very fast, and its not like the proper protocols of chicken health have been tweaked and established in a nice textbook fashion... I'm sure better knowledge may be out there somewhere, but its always eluded me, and I search (well, used to- I've been battling my own declining health lately) this topic a lot. Its a shame that such information can't be more widespread so that regular vets can know exactly how to treat- then again the practice of medicine is called a 'practice' for a reason... its never set in stone. Learned that through my own frequent health woes- sometimes its better to be left for a bit and other times its better to do something than nothing. Its very difficult!!!!! And even sometimes the so called 'experts' get it totally wrong. Its not set in stone.

As far as your question goes for hens with EYP to lay eggs- no because the problem is that it the out is blocked and the hen will continue to lay internally until it succumbs to this blockage, ...unless there is some other obstruction which they can get the egg around. I would say it could be possible, but most likely not. I agree with everyone else that it sounds like it is not EYP at this point... again... my bad for not seeing the post that said Margo laid an egg before I posted that. I wish someone would have pointed out to me my error. I was trying to read quickly.

I still think giving an antibiotic is just fine when a bird is looking bad. That's what my vet always always does for me. It should be noted too that we are going by what we hear reported and share our best guesses. I will have to say this- I'm stumped and amazed because Margo looks great in some of the video and other videos not so great. Then again, animals have a will to survive and sometimes you can't know they are sick until the very last. So I'm stumped. Stumped but hoping that something will be figured out to give this hen some help.

That's my thought process at least. As was said before- everyone's different when it comes to guessing at what's the best thing to do. .... sadly.

 

[Bocktobery 10]

OMG, I don’t know if I can do this.

Did you talk with Kathy? Kathy was really kind enough to talk with me through this- I was TOTALLY scared, but it went down very well and I saved my hen. Talking with Kathy helped a lot...

Kathy, I still thank you for all your help that day!!

 

[Kathy Golla]

Well said, Bocktobery 10.

 

[Bocktobery 10]

One way to think on it... If you don't do something, she will definitely die, if you do then you have the potential to save. A body needs fuel to keep things up and running well.

What exactly is scaring you? Perhaps we could offer some encouragement? You have shown videos of Margo, and I'm stumped because she seems very peppy, but other times she seems very sick. So I can't really tell.

 

[Kathy Golla]

Kathy being casportspony, certainly not me!

 

[Bocktobery 10]

Also, you will have learned something new and can take that knowledge to the next time something like this happens... its incentive to try!

 

[Bocktobery 10]

But I will say, you should feel ready... so take your time and think about it, okay? Its ok to be very scared about it- there is a potential for harm here, but again, you have to make the decision. Its okay any way.

 

[Bocktobery 10]

Also, there is nothing to say that she will be saved by tube feeding... we don't know what the problem is... could be something like a congenital malformation or something. I've had that happen too.

 

[Bocktobery 10]

Kathy being casportspony, certainly not me!

yes, sorry.. I meant casportspony Kathy. But thanks you Kathy too!