Metronidazole dosage + Valbazen (Blackhead)

[junglebird]

Thanks, Dawg, and thanks so much for your help.

Here's the liver from the poor little dead guy.

His heart sure looks little next to that big spotted liver.

 

[junglebird]

Dosed most of the birds with valbazen today. That was not easy. I soaked pieces of bread, but I had to get each chicken alone (there are 39) to be sure no one took their morsel from them. One refused to eat it, not even in a piece of hamburger.

The turkeys totally refused to eat the bread crumbs, and also wouldn't eat it in hamburger!

As I was dosing turkey number 7 orally, numbers 8, 9 and 10 flew out of the holding pen and camouflaged themselves in with the rest of the flock, so I have 3 undosed turkeys.

Next time, maybe just put it in the water supply?

 

[seminolewind]

Hi, it does not look like anything that you could have done something for. It actually looks like tumors. Sorry he died.

 

[seminolewind]

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I did the bread. It's not easy , is it?

 

[junglebird]

Happy to say that poos look better since de-worming with the Valbazen. A couple of days ago I let them into a new yard where they are consuming/tilling the last of the vegetable garden. This has brought on some more weird poos, but I'm guessing that's from eating tomato and pepper plants. It seems weird to let them eat that, but lists I've read of plants that are toxic to poultry haven't included the nightshades.

All the turks seem fine - eating heartily, excellent energy and sociability.

I've been reading everything I can find on Albendazole. Besides Dawg's post, I can't find any other instructions advising a follow up dose, not even on the lable. If I were to do the follow-up dose Dawg recommends, that would be in 2 days. Does anyone (especially Dawg

, if you're reading this)have a reference to an article or study recommending a follow-up dosing for Valbazen?

 

[dawg53]

Redose again in 10 days to kill worm larva missed since the first dosing. Here's a link: Post #91. Notice the lower percentage kill rates with roundworms and tapes...another reason to redose to ensure a 100% kill rate and possibly a 3rd or 4th dosing for tapes. Gapeworm would require multiple doses as well.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=576036&p=10

 

[seminolewind]

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That's a tough one because Valbazen is used off-label in chickens. And to top it off, what I've found is that literature with Valbazen doesn't even mention chicken worms because it's not for worming chickens!

We'll just have to trust that Dawg person

 

[dawg53]

Seminolewind, dont you remember this lol?
http://japr.fass.org/content/16/3/392.full

 

[frostbite]

Dawg53, you ROCK!!!!

I love it when people quote actual scientific research performed by reliable non-commercial institutions, especially when they can provide references.

 

[Frosty]

For that matter, SafeGuard, Ivermectin, and Tylan are all off label use too. And while reading some information in the on line Merck Veterinary Manual yesterday, I saw something that said 'Improving sanitation and minimizing antibiotic use in poultry help reduce the incidence of candidiasis. Affected birds can be treated with copper sulfate at 0.5 mg/L of drinking water, or 0.5 mg copper sulfate per kg of feed. Vinegar is used as a treatment for candidiasis at 15 mL/L of drinking water. Chlorhexidine is used for prevention or treatment at 2.5 mL/L of drinking water. Chlorine bleach at 0.1 mL/L of drinking water may help control the infection. All of these treatments lack FDA approval' So at least in the case of candidiasis (Thrush/Sour Crop), Vinegar is not FDA approved.