Michigan Right to Farm Law, what does it mean?

[Mahalo]

I think I need to talk to you, can you email me at [email protected]?

 

[Mahalo]

Hi, I may need some legal help in Troy (Oakland County). Maybe we could talk?

 

[RonEstrada]

I could probably find this if I backtracked the thread, but who are the legislaters working on changing the Farm Act? Guys, we just got Right to Work passed in Michigan. THAT was impossible. Maybe we need to form a group like Michigan Freedom to Work for our cause. If someone has already done this, let me know.

 

[RaZ]

They are NOT changing the RTFA, they are proposing changes to the GAAMPs, which are guidelines for support of the actual law.

The proposed changes to the GAAMPs would disenfranchise most of the state's population who keep small farm operations of any kind.

Come to the Ag Commissioners meeting on December 12 in Lansing. Let them know what you think of the changes. At least write to them and their departments and ask that the proposed changes be tabled until next year.

 

[cowcreekgeek]

They are NOT changing the RTFA, they are proposing changes to the GAAMPs, which are guidelines for support of the actual law.

The proposed changes to the GAAMPs would disenfranchise most of the state's population who keep small farm operations of any kind.

Come to the Ag Commissioners meeting on December 12 in Lansing. Let them know what you think of the changes. At least write to them and their departments and ask that the proposed changes be tabled until next year.

The Michigan Department of Agriculture might be manipulated/pressured into establishing new GAAMPs that are prohibitive of situations that municipalities/developers wish most to prevent/control, as a stop-gap solution 'til revision(s) to this Act can be codified ... that's exactly what I'd hope to do, if I were your opposition.

For example, and in spite of any Court opinions, the FEB 2011 Livestock Production Facility Siting Request Application and Information Checklist is still in use, and contains therein this exact quote:

If the proposed project site is within 1500 feet of high public use areas
Distance to hospitals, churches, schools, parks, campgrounds, commercial zones
Distance to licensed commercial elder care facilities [link removed]
Distance to licensed commercial childcare facilities [link removed]
Local government and high public use area user input
Zoning in area of proposed project (via Township County)
Distance to areas zoned primarily for residential use
Local government input/approval/zoning permit

SoOo ... they can delay the process, or possibly even refuse the location, until farmers obtain permit(s) that local government(s) fail to provide (whether by stalling, or simply refusing to )-;~

I've seen no cheers of victory by any that had cases pending, as I strongly suspect that any attorney representing 'The People' would be smart enough to know better than to enter any Court under the current circumstances ... they'll continue to postpone, 'til the rules are changed to their favor, and their confidence is fully restored.

I admire the efforts of those that continue their fights for the rights of all ... freedom isn't a given, or ever truly won, but something that must be continuously fought for. Sadly, whether due to fear, or apathy, most won't. In fact? They'll blame those that do, should a right be lost, and never thank them, should it be won on their behalf.

 

[Mahalo]

Here is the City of Troy Ordinace regarding housing of chickens

90.70.20 Permit Application Process. An applicant for a domestic, dangerous or wild animal permit shall: ...
(f) in the case of domestic animals, demonstrate to the Housing and Zoning Inspector that the lot or parcel that animals will be kept on is three-quarters (¾) of one (1) acre or larger. This requirement may be waived by the Animal Control Appeal Board if the applicant can demonstrate circumstances that allow for waiver pursuant to regulations promulgated by the Animal Control Appeal Board. Waivers will not be granted for animals that are loud or likely to be detrimental to the neighborhood.


Isnt this non-compliant with the MRTFA? What does GAAMPS say about land requirements for less than 5000 hens?

 

[cowcreekgeek]

Here is the City of Troy Ordinace regarding housing of chickens

90.70.20 Permit Application Process. An applicant for a domestic, dangerous or wild animal permit shall: ...
(f) in the case of domestic animals, demonstrate to the Housing and Zoning Inspector that the lot or parcel that animals will be kept on is three-quarters (¾) of one (1) acre or larger. This requirement may be waived by the Animal Control Appeal Board if the applicant can demonstrate circumstances that allow for waiver pursuant to regulations promulgated by the Animal Control Appeal Board. Waivers will not be granted for animals that are loud or likely to be detrimental to the neighborhood.


Isnt this non-compliant with the MRTFA? What does GAAMPS say about land requirements for less than 5000 hens?

I can't offer legal advice, but I'm certain you would benefit from a close review of the past several pages of this thread. And, I sure hope you're not considering 4,999 hens on less than 3/4 acre ... consider, rather than approaching this Ordinance as a violation of your Right to Farm, first making an effort to comply w/ it. If you hope to keep laying and/or broiler hens in small numbers, and w/o any rooster(s), I would suspect you'd find little if any resistance from the Animal Control Appeal Board. Depending upon your circumstances, you might first obtain the blessings of at least those that own property bordering your own (or any shared right of way), which would almost guarantee they'd OK your commercial farming operation.

See how easily I slipped those last three words in there? That's the status you should seek to obtain. And, if not for your chickens? Do so by other agricultural means, and quietly obtain a commercial license as a business from the State. In fact? I think I'd apply for one prior to the end of this year.

 

[fuzzybutt love]

mahalo, you can see the original and what they are proposing too here http://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdard/2013_DRAFT_SITE_SELECTION_GAAMP_392878_7.pdf

 

[RaZ]

http://myemail.constantcontact.com/...-time.html?soid=1101894121878&aid=GCUjp9wYqk4

 

[SillyChicken]

Here is the City of Troy Ordinace regarding housing of chickens

90.70.20 Permit Application Process. An applicant for a domestic, dangerous or wild animal permit shall: ...
(f) in the case of domestic animals, demonstrate to the Housing and Zoning Inspector that the lot or parcel that animals will be kept on is three-quarters (¾) of one (1) acre or larger. This requirement may be waived by the Animal Control Appeal Board if the applicant can demonstrate circumstances that allow for waiver pursuant to regulations promulgated by the Animal Control Appeal Board. Waivers will not be granted for animals that are loud or likely to be detrimental to the neighborhood.


Isnt this non-compliant with the MRTFA? What does GAAMPS say about land requirements for less than 5000 hens?

define loud?

some of these are so bull crappish! and..... if the person in charge doesn't like chickens.... you're sh it out of luck!


I sent my letter.. hopefully it makes a difference.