Michigan Thread - all are welcome!

[chicken grandma]

Chicken Rustler - Great insight and much more common than you think! I took a simple antibiotic once - Cipro. I ended up in the Emergency Room with trouble breathing and very confused thinking. The doctor said that he saw drug reactions every day and that even antibiotics were culprits. I only take Zithromax now because the doctor said that was the safest antibiotic.
It was shocking and embarrassing to have such a big reaction to an antibiotic, but now I know!

Merry Christmas to you and all the kind people at BYC!

 

[Chicken Rustler]

Drug withdrawal is mostly a nasty event. No matter what the drug is. Even caffeine

I think you may have miss-understood. See it WASN'T a withdrawl issue. The NEW med just did bad things inside my head. Once I went back to the original med all seems OK again!!! My body just didn't like the one med.

 

[Chicken Rustler]

DH is getting a bee hive... when he can figure out what he wants.

Well IF you want honey there is very limited choice in hives. While there are several styles/designs some don't lend well to honey harvest. However IF pollination is the main purpose there are a lot more choices and I you do just want pollination. I would HIGHLY recommend Mason Bees.

 

[NovaAman]

Nova, My Fiance doesn't frequent this site, in fact she makes fun of me for it LOL. Yesterday when we went to close up chickens she said, At least wipe the poop off before we get in the car! I had to laugh because of your tag line Made my night. She just rolled her eyes LOL

OK to my MI. friends. I hope you don't mind me sharing this. It is NOT something I am proud of. However I am sharing in hopes of helping others and I really hope each and everyone of you will read it.


Rob

I say the same thing about my mom and her depakote. Her heatlh insurance wouldn't cover her dilatin anymore and had her switched to depakote. I told her, I told her doc. Her doc told me I was over reacting. My mom is more of an idiot now, and she reacts to things with such exaggeration. Gets confused and can't understand as easily... AND no she doesn't have a UTI, we checked. BUT this started occuring after the depakote change... But CR, I am happy that you found your culprit and are on the path to normalcy... Just not to normal. We like you in pink.

glad, I put a couple of drops of peremerithrin [sp?] with a bit of vaseline and used it on the chickens legs for a few days to a week. Wait till they are roosting at night and it is easier to apply it.

That cracked me up! So many extra letters! LOL Nice to hear from you though.

found the roof rake (for snow) works real well for cleaning under coops

Roof rakes are great for dirt floor poop cleaning too!

 

[gladahmae]

well the bath is done. talk about disgusting! she had an extra "toe" of matted poop and dirt on each foot. and STINK of ammonia!

Makes me want to get those other poor silkies and clean them up. She's in the basement in a box now. We have in-floor heat down there so she should be nice and warm and not be in a draft or pestered by the kids.

 

[Chicken Rustler]

Interesting. I have been on Depakote for about 15-18 years. I am on it DAILY to prevent disabling migraines.

And as for "Just not to normal. We like the pink." NOT TO WORRY !!!!! The pink will stay see because I have no issue with it and it is my little bit of show of support.

 

[NovaAman]

She's using it for anti seizure... She hasn't has a seizure since being on it, so that is good... My dad was on it for his BP, didn't work, made him actually more down. Even, but down... My sister takes it also, and it works for her.

 

[ladyrsanti]

OK to my MI. friends. I hope you don't mind me sharing this. It is NOT something I am proud of. However I am sharing in hopes of helping others and I really hope each and everyone of you will read it.

OK I am going to talk very serious about something. I hope that EVERYBODY will PLEASE read this even if you don't like my posts.
I am sharing this information in hopes that it may help someone. It is not intended for any other purpose.
If by chance you notice changes in yourself or someone around you. PLEASE DO NOT just pass it off. Try to determine a cause. Now more specifically what I am talking about is mood / emotional changes. There could be an underlying cause that could be solved very easy but if left unchecked could be terrible.
OK so I guess about the only way I know how to relay this is to jump under the bus. Please try to understand that I am only doing this in attempt to help others and maybe in that some may have a better understanding of me, especially those who have met in person.
OK so here is my point. If you notice changes give a good look at things such as MEDICATIONS !!!!
See I had been on a med for NARCOLEPSY (a sleep disorder) then 9/2010 the Dr. changed that med. I was OK with that. Well I had been on a downhill spiral since. I really didn't know how bad or the cause until last week. See I ran out of that med and while waiting was forced to go back to the original. Now this is the part that is embarrassing but I feel the need to share just so others can see what kinds of things can happen and hopefully help others. See on the med I started 9/2010 I had reached the point where simple little things like just reading certain posts would cause me to become teary. I am sure many who have met me may have noticed and wondered what the heck! I was also struggling with other VERY bad thoughts nearly daily. I have now been back on the "old" med for one week. No Tears No VERY bad thoughts. My point is PLEASE if you or someone around you seems to be having problems of this nature PLEASE get help /try to help them. I was VERY LUCKY that I had a couple of AWESOME friends who on more than one occasion helped me through melt downs. While they were there for me. They didn't know me before so it was hard for them to do much more than be very supportive and I am so thankful to them for that.
I truly hope that nobody else goes through this kind of thing but I hope that this post may shed some light and maybe help others to catch things like this earlier than I did.
Hopefully you will soon see a better (more like) the "old" me that most of you don't know!
Rob

Absolutely! Better living through chemistry. Meds. can mess you up... and so can the dr.'s prescribing them... and the patients taking them. Several years ago I blew my nerves (the best way I can describe it). I was desperate for some relief. My dr. began prescribing every psych med under the sun. Nothing worked and worse, most made things worse. Some knocked me out, one prevented me from walking; then there were hot flashes, restless leg syndrome, tremors, ticks, and suicidal thoughts. I was starting to wish I could be committed while taking them so I wouldn't have to be responsible for the household while medicated. I even had MRI's done when I started getting painful muscle spasms, AFTER I quit a medication, to make sure it didn't damage my brain. Very dangerous stuff. My dr. was getting very frustrated with me too, that *I* was consciously acting so sensitively towards the meds. She even referred me to a psychiatrist... who in turn told me I was fine and to drop my dr. because she was, essentially, going to kill me. That was my warning, right there and I didn't run with it. It was a hard one because we'd been through so much, to have to start over with a new dr. when I was feeling so rotten... so I stuck with her even though I knew I shouldn't and dreaded going in. I would almost take full responsibility for that bad decision but what my Dr. did next makes me reconsider. She got fed up with me complaining about the effects of the medications and my inability to stick with them. I was, after all, afraid to quit medications, let alone try new ones and yet I was still going to her for help. She gave me a very stern talking-to, changed directions, told me I had fibromyalgia and gave me one more to try. It was weird, sent up a red flag that I ignored, but I sucked it up and tried it. I was determined to stick it out at all costs, not to complain or be wimpy about it and to FEEL BETTER! Optimism would rule the day!

...Soooooooo...naturally, a couple of weeks later, I felt like I was going to die. I felt so ill. I was out to lunch with my kids, MIL and her FIL. It was so bad and yet so vague, I went into the bathroom and crouched on the floor, not knowing if I was going to pass out or just die for whatever reason. Do you call 911 and tell them you just feel like you're going to die? I certainly didn't want to call my dr. and say so but that's what I decided to do. I have three kids and a husband to take care of. So I called her from my cell phone before I even left the restaurant and went straight there with my kids in tow, snowstorm that day too - I'll never forget. She took my BP and her jaw dropped. It was through the roof! Normally my bp is very low, almost to a fault. That med was dropped immediately and another added to bring the bp down and they sent me to a cardiologist for a battery of tests. Turns out that med wasn't approved for "mood disorder" but only for fibromyalgia and she wanted me to try it because it was known to help those suffering from anxiety and depression, etc. I didn't drop her, I didn't sue her, I didn't even leave the practice but she wouldn't see me after that, wouldn't even make eye contact in passing. I only saw her nurse practitioner who never ever pressured me into taking a medication. I still have issues with my nerves too, that I haven't been able to solve entirely. We moved so I don't go there anymore anyway. I have a new dr. who is understandably very cautious with me and I love her for that.

Yeah, I also like people to know what I went though with medications. I wish someone had stopped me from going to that dr., stopped that cycle before she nearly killed me. Nobody should have to go through that. I'm not out for personal gain, for lawsuits or even ruining her practice over it. I'm positive her intentions were good but that she didn't know when to quit, that she believed she could solve anything with her arsenal of medical magic. Just like I didn't know when to quit and that she had something up her sleeve that could help.

Medications can be dangerous.

 

[NovaAman]

Ok... got an idea to bounce off some of ya'll. I use clamp lights to keep my waterers liquid. I was/am thinking of building a 2x2x2 watering cage, with one side open, top of chicken wire for the light to sit and tied down, and 3 sides of heavy cardboard to keep the heat focused on the wateres. I would consider a cookie tin heater, but I have several inches of leaves in the runs and I also use plastic waterers... So, I worry over fire and melting... maybe being a little to "over thinking it"... maybe not. Anyway, thoughts on the watering cage? My only cost would be the time, and $8 on wood for the three cages. I have all the other material already.

 

[NovaAman]

Lady, have you tried an elimanation or paleo diet? Literally, going ALL NATURAL? Nothing processed, that includes noodles unless you make your own? Sometimes scratch cooking can be a real PITA, but sometimes it is the processes of food production that cause a lot of the problems we are finding in our mental development and functioning. Nutrition is so very overlooked.