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really, it is not a matter of being right or wrong, we are all trying to find a solution in our own way. Nothing wrong with that. Maybe between the lot of us we can whip this problem. If you can breed resistance by culling, than you have no fears. If you can pass on a parent's strength against illness, than you have nothing to fear. I just want to be able to give more options, and with all the recent health problems it was getting hard not to mention the elephant in the room, especially with the spring hatch coming up, and so many people looking to purchase birds. (Not from me, obviously) Even though they are not my birds, it upsets me to see the losses.
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Well said Fuzzy!!!! It is a confusing problem and we are all trying to find solutions.

Are those two roosters who are flapping at each other?

1 Muttsfan - good luck with the dogs! You are a GOOD friend!

Krisrose - Can't wait to hear about the party. Is it Manicotti?
 
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There are 3 possible results after infection with a communicable (contageous) disease:

1 death

2 infection, symptomatic or not, leading to chronic infection and a carrier state
Typical diseases that this is seen with include herpesviruses (chicken pox, cold sores, Mareks disease), typhiod (think Typhoid Mary), and chicken diseases such as MS and MG.

3 Infection, symptomatic or not, which the birds immune system resolves, leaving a healthy bird without carrier state.

The number 3 birds are the ones we want to perpetuate. They are the ones with a healthy immune system and an ability to fight off infections.

Unfortunately, 2 and 3 can only be differentiated by testing, such as throat swabs or blood tests. This could get expensive if testing multiple birds.

My personal opinion is that if you know your flock has a disease in the number 2 catagory, your flock should be closed to outgoing birds, and you should seriously consider if you want to add birds to an infected flock.

A far as vaccination, it can reduce clinical disease incidence (meaning actual signs of illness), but not necessarily infection. vaccine success depends on several things, starting with selection of pathogen strain, proper handling and administration, to the adequacy of the immune system response to the vaccine. Should you vaccinate? Absolutely if your birds are at risk of exposure to an infection. But, keep in mind that vaccines are not 100% effective, and are intended as a population tool, not for complete protection of every individual. So vaccination will be more effective if all the young birds are vaccinated.

Sorry if this is a little technical!
 
Wishing you a Merry Christmas from me and my Peep to you and all of yours!

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One of the biggest problems with Christmas is it never seems to live up to all of the expectations put on that one day. Instead of MAKING it happen just enjoy what does happen. Christmas perfection is impossible unlike the one whose birth we are celebrating.
 
Merry Christmas to all my BYC friends. The dogs and I are off to my daughter's for Christmas Eve and day. Chickens are tucked in with full feeder and waterer and extra treats. Neighbor will be over tomorrow to check on them and top the water off and collect eggs. She loves to do it because she gets to keep any eggs she finds. She said she feels like a kid on Easter morning. Everyone have a safe and blessed Christmas!
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