milk for chickens

[Emzyyy]

mac in abilene wrote:
Anny wrote:
(being a vegan I think drinking milk is a little weird to begin with but that's just my thoughts)

Being a mammal, I'm pretty much ok with it...

Actually Humans are the only Mammal that drink ANOTHER mammals milk...which is a little odd and gross if you think about it. I mean who was the first person to look at a cows utters and say, Man I really want to drink that! hahaha

Wouldn't it be more natural to just drink human breast milk all the time. (if you think drinking some one else breast milk is gross, then think about what cows milk is haha )


Sorry I'll stop being crazy vegan person now..I'll be good

actually I agree it is a little strangeeee.
I want to be vegetarian but Im 15 and my dad thinks its unhealthy, really if you get enough protein and calcium and stuff its fine you have less of a chance of cancer and heart attack. So Im not allowed to til Im outa the house. I don't think I could ever be vegan though I love cheese, and dairy. I just think its cruel to kill a animal for your taste buds.​

 

[patandchickens]

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Once again, I was not talking about spoiled dairy products. Good milk or milk by-products will culture into a form edible by poultry. Clabbered milk is not spoiled milk. By your reasoning we should stay away from yogurt, buttermilk, sour cream, and cheese, because "you never know what's culturing up in there".

Just to be clear -- that was NOT 'my reasoning' and I was NOT saying what you seem to think.

I meant, literally, what I said - that if milk has started to go *bad*, which is different from useful culturing, it would be riskier to feed to chickens.

Pat

 

[go-veggie]

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I love the taste of cows milk, however, I am so grossed out by it if it isn't pasteurized and homogenized. I know, some people think that's terrible, but I just cannot drink it straight from the cow. I have access to fresh, raw milk too, and it's so inexpensive at this farm near our house, but I just can't do it. There are so many ways to get all the protein you need being a vegetarian, your dad's arguement is very out dated. It's super healthy to choose that lifestyle if you can stay away from filling yourelf with junk food and eat natural sources of protein like nuts, etc. Especially if you are eating dairy, you are getting tons of protein. Vegans are the ones in the more difficult situation of getting enough protein, but they do it and get by just fine. All of our animals get a little bit of dairy every now and then, like cheese and yogurt, and no one ever gets sick. It's a really bad idea to give cow's milk to baby animals other than cows though as their primary source of nutrition. They cannot digest it and they will can die of dehydration from having diarrhea. My chickens love peach yogurt, but they like the plain stuff too. Everything is probably ok in moderation. Good luck with becoming a vegetarian...there are lots of great meat substitutes out there that you get used to, and before too long, you'll forget how yummy an extra crispy drumstick was at KFC!

 

[brandywine]

Milk-fed chicken is a gourmet item, and very trendy right now. It is said to be best for a roasting hen, makes them fat and tender.

But as others have said, farmers have been feeding leftover milk and milk products to the chickens and pigs since before there was dirt, as a way to avoid wasting food.

If I had both layers and meat birds, I'd give the milk to the meaties.

 

[smom1976]

wow I never in the world would have thought that one of MY posts would be so popular..

mine usually go by the wayside.

but just to throw in a tidbit..

I have seen stories and swear I have seen pictures of stray kittens, puppies, rabbits, and all sorts of mamals that have had something or another happen to its lactating mother and have been able to either be aquanted to another lactating mamal or been bottle fed another type of milk. So I wouldnt say that we are the ONLY mamal that drinks anothers milk. I personally only like to drink the organic stuff. It is more expensive than our rice milk so I am drinking rice milk at this time. But I do love other dairy.

 

[WuWei]

My friend's chicken was injured, we're wondering if we can give it kefir (from raw milk) to help her immune system and healing?

Thanks, Pat

 

[kstaven]

kefir will work. I have raised dozens of parrots and used "raw milk" yogurt on many when they have issues. I just have to stress the RAW part. Pasteurized product will lead you down the road to problems, much like giving kittens pasteurized milk rather than raw.

 

[MicMoo]

This brings up something interesting I read in Jared Diamond's book Guns, Germs, and Steel. He discusses the evidence that humans (like other mammals) originally could only digest lactose during their early lifetime. It was only about 10,000 years ago that humans evolved a genetic mutation that allowed adults to digest lactose, but not all of humanity evolved this mutation. Only those civilizations that had domesticated large milk-bearing animals (Northern Europe, Eastern Europe, and Central Africa).

Looking at the distribution of lactose intolerance across the globe, one can see that lactose intolerance is low in areas with early domestication and those areas later colonized/settled by their descendants. For example, the majority populations of both the United States and Australia are of European ancestry and most can digest lactose, however Native American Indians and Australian Aborigines can't. Parts of South America had domesticated the Llama for milk production which explains why lactose intolerance isn't 100% in those areas.

I lived in Korea for 18 months and this would explain why I could never find fresh milk or other dairy products in Korea.

 

[dangerouschicken]

I'm sorry folks, but milk and cheese are delicious, and if you think that dairy is gross, what about veggies? They are grown in dirt and manure, for gawd's sake!

What I think is funny is that my brother, who is a vegan, will eat SOY cheese SOY hot dogs SOY chicken nuggets and all these foods to get the taste of the real thing, but it is totally manufactured. THAT IS GROSS.

I love meat, dairy, eggs, veggies, fruit, nuts, etc etc etc. Variety is the spice of life!

BTW, Blue Foot chickens in France (poulet de Bresse) are fed milk to make the meat taste richer. Some farmers in America have followed suit:

http://dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/25/not-a-mothers-milk/

 

[hoosierhen]

I want a warm chocolate chip cookie and a cold glass of milk! My dad used to call milk "cow squeezings"