Mille Cochin Info

[ScaredOfShadows]

Oh man I have NEVER seen this coloring before in a cochin! You guys are awesome for working on such a LOVELY color for such an awesome breed. I have always adored the beautiful colorings on mille fleurs but I'm a huge fan of the Brahmas and cochins.

I can't help but ask, if I can't get my hands on some hatching eggs from someone. I would love to have some of these guys for my own!!!

If any of you guys are willing to part with some hatching eggs I'd be extremely happy to buy some off you! PLEASE feel free to PM me with price and availability info or just reply on here and I'll PM you!

oh man again everyone...BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL birds!

 

[WestKnollAmy]

Scaredofshadows,
what a shame you are so far away from me or I would suggest you come down and see all the kids I have. I haven't got as many well patterned MFC as everyone else or as far along but I have 6 breeding pens going. I am not hatching as many as I was but I have several starter pairs for sale. Check out my website on the bantam Cochin page and scroll all the way down to the Mille Fleur. And I have a few on the For Sale page.

 

[BluffCountryShepherdess]

Just so that everyone knows: I have decided to sell my beautiful flock of Mille Fleur bantam Cochins in order to make room for my Calico Cochin project. I have quite a few one year old MFCs~ nice color, pattern and type and even MORE juvenile birds! I need to move these birds to make room for my Calico cochin babies so am willing to work with you if you'd like to get a starter flock...

Here's one of my one year old, proven hens: already laying and you'll have chicks in no time!

I've got hens, roosters, pullets and cockerels ~ email me for prices and photos!

 

[Cowgirlgrace]

I have a question about type. When the lavender gene was introduced to the Orpingtons it was brought in with the Ameraucanas. So naturally then you would need to work on bringing the Orpington type back. With these Mille Fleur Cochins the color was created by crossing other Cochins. Everyone keeps talking about bringing the type back, that the MF lack type but how did it get lost? I can see irresponsible breeders that do not have quality stock to begin with trying to breed the Mille Fluer color but most seem to know what they are doing, hopefully only using the best typy stock to create the new color. Are there any very typy Mille Fleur out there? and if not why?

 

[Msbear]

Everyone says they started with cochins but, those "cochins" were seriously lacking in type. No one wants to speak the evil but I would bet the farm (if I had one)

that some other breed was lurking in the genetics.

The combs are just now getting quite a bit smaller, the feet and legs are scantilly (sp?) feathered (where a typey cochin would have layers upon layers of fluff) and the bodies are narrow. Many roos stand way too high and have pointed cushions which brings me to one good explanation... d'uccle

It was probably many many many years ago for most lines but, unless you are conscious of it and are making deliberate moves to get away from that look, it will be perpetuated...

 

[ShysCreations]

Ms Bear what a striking striped chick! The milles can throw an amazing group of colors. I held back a couple young cockerels showing blockiness at a young age. Both are my 3rd generation effort in mille fleur bantam cochin. Here's Tank, 3mos in pics.

Then this is little Pal, friendly even as a young chick. He's even younger than Tank.

And this group of youngsters show the range of colors. The solid rusty one is just getting a white feather or two and she had MFC parents...as did the bottom left cockerel. Then the right side pullet had black mottled dams and a MFC sire.

 

[ScratchesWithChickens]

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(Can someone tell me if they can see the picture? It didn't seem like it was working for a minute.)

 

[Coopa Cabana]

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Erin, thank you for putting it out there!! Everybody seems to be in such denial. Our little version of "Don't Ask - Don't Tell". If you don't have other Cochins, you probably won't see it. If you have other Cochins, it is just so obvious. It is just so critical that everyone breed for type first - that is always true even if you're working within one color variety, but with the MF's it is just that much more crucial.

Hear No Evil - Speak No Evil - But We Can Still See The Evil.

With the new color project I'm working on, it took me a long time (not to mention a few extra bucks!!) to find the absolute best foundation Cochins I could find before I got started. And I find myself actually offended now when it is suggested that I take short-cuts and add in a Wyandotte or Rhode Island Red.

 

[BluffCountryShepherdess]

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That's the very same thing that the man I bought my first cochins (a show quality trio of blacks) said about my MFCs when he came to do my NPIP inspection! He has raised and showed and judged chickens ~ including at the national level) for over 50 years. The first thing he said when he saw my flock ~ of which I am very proud! ~ was "those aren't Cochins". Needless to say, I was less than thrilled. We spent many hours together that day and he showed me a lot about selecting for quality (nobody had ever mentioned wing sets or split wings, or correct combs, beyond the 5 points, width of feathers or SO many other things that I didn't realize I was supposed to be looking for! Then again, I think that's fairly common when working on a new (color) project. I think breeding stock is often selected on the basis of color and perhaps over-all type ~ but not detailed points of conformation. All I know is that after a fascinating afternoon in which I do think I actually made a friend, he agreed my MFCs (and Calicos!) were pretty but, like you, he would "bet the farm" that there was some de'Ucle in there somewhere...

I did assure him, and I have no doubt myself, that the breeders that I bought my stock from have not outcrossed with anything other than Cochins. It would however, be hard to imagine that nobody EVER tried it...

 

[muddyhorse]

one of my friends ended up with a frizzled mille ( lucky) what color hens should she look for to pair him with ? thanks