Mille Cochin Info

[1mommahen]

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Beautiful!!!

 

[shay20]

Ok this should be teh place i post my question.

I have project birds, they are still young.
But i have 2 Milli fluer D'uccle cross Red cochin bantams, (these are from another project i am working on , my frizzled d'uccles) but these 2 are smooth feathered, i am thinking on crosseing those back to cochin bantams to get teh milli fluer into my cochin bantams, now what color is best to cross them back to?

 

[MissJenny]

OMG, she's beautiful. I certainly hope you find the right home for them. (I am so tempted. REALLY tempted.)

Jenny

 

[blaundee]

Does anyone have the Milles in LF?

 

[Cowgirlgrace]

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OK, since none of the 'experts' have replied I'm just going to mention a few things I have learned. I know the project uses Buff Columbian and Black Mottled. I would guess since you have crossed with a red cochin that you might try a Black Mottled next but thats just a guess because I know the Columbian gene is also needed. I also know that useing the Mille d'uccle to bring the Mille color to the Cochin is frowned upon since it is so hard to bring back the type in the Cochin so most are trying to get the color useing existing colors in Cochin. Since you have already used the Mille d'uccle I hope someone else pipes in here for a potential next step.

 

[shay20]

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OK, since none of the 'experts' have replied I'm just going to mention a few things I have learned. I know the project uses Buff Columbian and Black Mottled. I would guess since you have crossed with a red cochin that you might try a Black Mottled next but thats just a guess because I know the Columbian gene is also needed. I also know that useing the Mille d'uccle to bring the Mille color to the Cochin is frowned upon since it is so hard to bring back the type in the Cochin so most are trying to get the color useing existing colors in Cochin. Since you have already used the Mille d'uccle I hope someone else pipes in here for a potential next step.

maybe thats why no one is answering me,

Thanks for answering me, i was not going to do it, but seeing that i am working with teh frizzled D's, i thought i would give it a go.

 

[Cowgirlgrace]

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OK, since none of the 'experts' have replied I'm just going to mention a few things I have learned. I know the project uses Buff Columbian and Black Mottled. I would guess since you have crossed with a red cochin that you might try a Black Mottled next but thats just a guess because I know the Columbian gene is also needed. I also know that useing the Mille d'uccle to bring the Mille color to the Cochin is frowned upon since it is so hard to bring back the type in the Cochin so most are trying to get the color useing existing colors in Cochin. Since you have already used the Mille d'uccle I hope someone else pipes in here for a potential next step.

maybe thats why no one is answering me,

Thanks for answering me, i was not going to do it, but seeing that i am working with teh frizzled D's, i thought i would give it a go.

LOL, thats what I was thinking too. I'm a newby to lots of breeds and a lot of my posts on other threads go unanswered so I know the feeling. But the MFC people are a pretty helpful bunch and maybe they will be logging on this evening.

 

[Coopa Cabana]

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maybe thats why no one is answering me,

Thanks for answering me, i was not going to do it, but seeing that i am working with teh frizzled D's, i thought i would give it a go.

LOL, thats what I was thinking too. I'm a newby to lots of breeds and a lot of my posts on other threads go unanswered so I know the feeling. But the MFC people are a pretty helpful bunch and maybe they will be logging on this evening.

OK, I'll throw my hat into the ring here. (Actually, I did type up a response a couple of hours ago, and then deleted it. I was afraid you might not hear what I wanted to say.)

First, I don't think anyone here would consider themself an MFC 'expert', as no one has yet to perfect and stabilize both the MF Plumage AND Cochin Type. Having said that, there are a lot of seasoned and very knowledge MFC breeders on the thread, many of whom are very successful with their lines.

And you are right - the general concensus is Please, Please, Please don't cross any more D'uccle blood into the MF Cochins!! After 10 years, (give or take a couple) we are still seeing remnants of D'uccle type in a lot of the birds, even though it is hard to track down anyone who crossed in a D'uccle, or will admit to it. Long, lean, upright bodies, longer necks, thin and upright cushions, skinny and hard feathers rather than wide, soft and fluffy - if you see any of this, it is most probably due to D'uccle blood.

Many breeders have INVESTED several years, not to mention the money and frustration, to get us where we are today. And most have excellent stock or eggs available - they have already saved you years of work and money - why not take advantage of it? There's just no need for anyone to be going backwards at this point in time. IMHO

 

[shay20]

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LOL, thats what I was thinking too. I'm a newby to lots of breeds and a lot of my posts on other threads go unanswered so I know the feeling. But the MFC people are a pretty helpful bunch and maybe they will be logging on this evening.

OK, I'll throw my hat into the ring here. (Actually, I did type up a response a couple of hours ago, and then deleted it. I was afraid you might not hear what I wanted to say.)

First, I don't think anyone here would consider themself an MFC 'expert', as no one has yet to perfect and stabilize both the MF Plumage AND Cochin Type. Having said that, there are a lot of seasoned and very knowledge MFC breeders on the thread, many of whom are very successful with their lines.

And you are right - the general concensus is Please, Please, Please don't cross any more D'uccle blood into the MF Cochins!! After 10 years, (give or take a couple) we are still seeing remnants of D'uccle type in a lot of the birds, even though it is hard to track down anyone who crossed in a D'uccle, or will admit to it. Long, lean, upright bodies, longer necks, thin and upright cushions, skinny and hard feathers rather than wide, soft and fluffy - if you see any of this, it is most probably due to D'uccle blood.

Many breeders have INVESTED several years, not to mention the money and frustration, to get us where we are today. And most have excellent stock or eggs available - they have already saved you years of work and money - why not take advantage of it? There's just no need for anyone to be going backwards at this point in time. IMHO

Thank you, hey thats why i am asking first before doing anything, i will stick to my frizzle d'uccles.
Thanks for the advice.

 

[mjgigax]

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In my experience, the folded toe is due to webbing being tight between the toes. Sometimes the way they are positioned in the egg cramps the foot & the toe naturally curls under. Then if the webbing is excessive, it continues to pull the toe inward.

When I check feet & find this problem, I clip the webbing between the toes & then position the foot on a strip of adhesive tape to keep the toes separate while healing. I put another piece of tape on the top & trim like a little pancake boot. I know your cockerel is older so this might not work for you but I don't think you should cull him as, IMO, it is a hatching problem & not genetic.

I did tape his feet when he was first hatched, but didn't consider that the webbing was the problem. I used paper medical tape—it is not too sticky, water soluble and makes a nice little foot sandwich. I don't think I have anything much to lose, I just have a lot of combinations I want to try. I am very happy with the "grandchickies" I hatched from your eggs last year. I'll post a photo soon!

Here are two pullets from July:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/12082_mf_pullets_buffmf.jpg

NICE Girls!!!!!!!