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[Minniechickmama]

Due to the amount of egg requests my DW is getting at work, I may have to add another 5 or 20 more birds to my flock. Those office folks are intrigued by the Marans eggs.

Hey, I will have a few extra Welsummers soon

 

[ejb3810]

Scandia, you are entitled to your opinion. But your lecture to me is not well placed. Come back with your pontificating after you have actually visited a winter deer yard, where it is common to find many deer killed by wolves with but one or two actually fed on by them.

 

[Minniechickmama]

Oh, I forgot the mention I have my first "lap chicken".

It is a CX. When I sit in my chair for chicken TV and to watch them, she comes over and starts making weird cooing noises. She picks things off my feet and legs, then looks up at me until I either lift her up or she jumps up. I have not had a chicken do this before.

She will sit on my lap like she is Queen. Pearl (lab) is not happy to see a chicken getting held when she is not. So she sits there lying her head next to the chicken. This is the chicken Pearl cleaned the butt on. I have always picked her up before, never have I seen her want up like tonight. And the noise is so funny, it is almost like a purr or chatter, she just sits and talks and talks.

Kind of neat, too bad it is a CX. Prospects for having a lap chicken next spring are not good.

You know what you need for a lap chicken?

 

[scandiafowl]

I am sure that some of you are not going to like my point of view, and that is okay, we don't all have to agree on everything.

Wolves.  They were here first.  Yes, I have the advantage of not living near them, but that WAS part of a choice we made.  People move into areas where wild animals have lived for centuries, perhaps millenium, and then get upset and want to kill them all or drive them off.  Someone sets up a sheep farm in wolf country, and suddenly, the wolf is evil?  No, they are doing what instinct tells them to do.  People want to live in "wild country" but they don't want the wild to bother them.  That makes no sense whatsoever to me.  We, as a species, have taken over so much of the Earth because we believe it is our right to.  Who pays for this?  The creatures who were here long before us.  The wolf kept the deer population in check long before we came along, but we came and killed the wolf, and the deer population exploded, just as any predator/prey relationship does when the predator is removed.  So, then people said, "We can keep the deer in check by hunting".   But, they didn't, then we get diseases moving in that spread to more of the animals population because of the overpopulation, they become problems for urban areas and travel hazards and so forth.

This is just one example of how people stepped in and interfered with nature, thinking that since we are the top of the food chain that we have the right to do as we please.


I can appreciate more the Native American way of taking what you need to harvest and leaving the rest to propagate.  But as humans, we have taken more than we have needed for so long that we are hurting the Earth for descendents.  

 
Call me a tree hugger, I am okay with that.  Call me a liberal.  I am one.  I have a right to take whatever point of view on this I feel is right, just as those who are anti-wolf have taken theirs.


I do want to point out something I saw just this week about the wolf in Yellowstone...

Since their reintroduction 20 years ago, the elk population (the main prey of the Yellowstone wolves)  has dropped from, I believe 18,000, to 4500.  Yes, I was shocked at that change and at first thought that it was a bad thing.  However, the story went on to tell that as the elk population dropped, other species began to thrive, not animals, but plants.  Due to the grazing in winter of the huge population of elk, the Aspen forest was being hit hard, and in the 20-years since, those trees have been able to take hold and recover.  


People continue to disturb the "Circle of Life"/food chain.  Eventually, we are going to destroy ourselves because we do not respect that there is a system that has been in operation on this planet for millions of years, and one day, we will follow the way of the dinosaur.  

I feel bad for those of you who suffer losses from the predators around you.  I feel bad when I lose them, but it is all part of the making the choice to keep critters that are food for other critters.  We can build pens and fences and buildings, but Mother Nature finds a way.


That is all.  I will say no more on the subject.

Amen!

 

[Minniechickmama]

Again I have to differ with you on that one.




For those of you living I cities, do they allow turkeys?


A turkey hen would seem to me to be the perfect city bird. They are quiet, they would not even need a fence or pen because they seldom leave the house area. The area my chickens wander is 5 times more than my turkeys. Turkeys love decks. They would be right behind Roger at the drive up window. I have to chase them to get them to go 50 feet.

You are kidding me! When I had hen turkeys here they were all over the place and roosted all over and crapped all over. Would not be a choice for in-town.

I would love to see someone try keeping a peafowl in town. LMBO, would give the poor kids in the neighborhood, and possibly a few adults, nightmares with that sound they make! I, however, love to hear them.

 

[KlopKlop]

This forum was more fun before everyone got hot under the collar about wolf opinions. Can we agree to disagree Amanda get back to chicken chatting? Take your opinions to the predator forum, for or against.

 

[Minniechickmama]

This forum was more fun before everyone got hot under the collar about wolf opinions. Can we agree to disagree Amanda get back to chicken chatting? Take your opinions to the predator forum, for or against.

I agree. We have said our piece about it, let's not debate, it will only end up tearing the family apart When I made my statement, I just thought it would be a good way to let everyone know, we are in agreement on the joy of chicken ownership, but we do have differing opinions on other matters. Please, let's be respectful or mods will come in a shut us down and we don't want that to happen.

Also, Klop, I sent you a message a couple of days ago. Did you see it?

 

[scandiafowl]

Scandia, you are entitled to your opinion.  But your lecture to me is not well placed.  Come back with your pontificating after you have actually visited a winter deer yard, where it is common to find many deer killed by wolves with but one or two actually fed on by them.

I find it amusing that you grant yourself facts while I'm pontificating.
Get your facts straight. Wolves hunt in packs but there are also lone individuals. They will eat until full, then leave the carcass for future consumption.

I'm not expecting to change your opinion of wolves. But be aware that there are those with differing perspectives on this site and expect contrary responses.

 

[scandiafowl]

I find it amusing that you grant yourself facts while I'm pontificating.
Get your facts straight. Wolves hunt in packs but there are also lone individuals. They will eat until full, then leave the carcass for future consumption.

I'm not expecting to change your opinion of wolves. But be aware that there are those with differing perspectives on this site and expect contrary responses.

And agreed, Matter settled, time to move on.

 

[duluthralphie]

You know what you need for a lap chicken?

LOL.. No way! That would be like me owning a little Fofo dog, It is never going to happen! But you can rest assured. I will never show my wife this picture.