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@NathanZee Lol!! There are a few other things I'd like to say, but I'm not- just in case she is on here!! Let's just say that I probably made a poor decision. About using Frontline, is there a withdraw period for eggs? The lady asked if I wanted them to be wormed and she used some sort of wormer on their vents. Is that normal? Apparently she says it takes care of bugs too. Sure didn't seem to be doing much for bugs. She was shocked that a stool sample from my flock showed me not having worms after a year. I have been very persistent at keeping things clean. Isn't it normal not to have worms? Or is that a common thing with chickens?


that is a PITA, to bring home the mites or lice or perhaps both . The flower dust you are using should work perfectly, you just have to work the dust into the feathers. Easy way to apply is with a nylon stocking - you can find them in dollar stores - you put the dust into the foot part and tie it off and use it like a powder puff. Focus on the back of the neck, under the wings, and the vent area, and belly - kind of ruffle the feathers to get it in down by the skin.

Minnie is right, frontline or similiar is easier, but it is much more toxic to the chickens and to you. ditto for sevin. If you have a large flock, heavier controls make more sense because of the numbers of chickens to be treated.

The flower dust has never failed for me.

Worms, not too often you would have worms the first year of keeping chickens. The longer you keep chickens in the same place, the more likely it is that you will have some worms. There is something called a "normal parasite load" - healthy chickens have worms, their systems are just balanced and they handle them fine. But, something tips that balance and the worms get the upper hand. Just like bacteria in your gut, if you get out of balance the "wrong" bacteria get the upper hand and you get sick.

I also laughed at the idea of putting a drop on the vent and having that worm a chicken! If only!!

Aren't you glad you practiced quarantine with your new chickens?


Hey, where are the pics of your new birds?
 
Oh, also- I'm going for the class to be a certified poultry testing agent (now that I've mentioned I purchased birds with mites, no one will want me haha!). I just figured it was one of the best ways to learn about taking care of the flock. Plus, it's only $25. I also registered my flock with the state- and enrolled in that poultry program where they monitor things. I can't remember the term, sorry. 



Where are you taking the class? Sounds like a great way to learn.
 
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Mites and lice can show up for anyone! Sparrows a number one culprit for bringing them in. Heck even a bale of straw can harbor them. Mites will burrow into woodwork and reside there. In winter, they especially seem bad because they are looking for nice warm hosts. I raise crested breeds, so really have to deal with the buggers.

Mites are tiny and look like dots of red/black pepper. Many times you won’t see them unless you quick part the feathers and take a bright flashlight. They scatter quick though. They also feed on the mucous around the mouth, eyes, and vent. With them you will see a gunky looking cradle cap type junk on the skin.

Lice are a bit bigger and like oblong white rice like bugs. They eat the feathers and will leave tiny holes that are really easily visible. They also deposit their eggs in sticky white sacks at the base of feathers.

With both you are first going to see some head shaking, scratching. They start to get a ratty look to their feathers. Combs get paler, birds quit laying, and then you can see the sacks of nits and cradle cap. When it gets really bad, you are going to have birds start dropping.

For me, it’s a constant battle with the crested breeds. All the powders (sevin, DE) in the world don’t cut it on them. Even the permethrin sprays and ivermectin will only treat the current infestation and kill live bugs on the bird at the moment. However, you still have all those eggs on the bird that they don’t touch though. Even within a day, those eggs start hatching and you are infected all over again. So you are looking at a never ending battle with all those. The products that have Fipronil in them (like Frontline) remain on the bird and keep the bugs dead for 3-6 months. Personally I use a vial of XL dog Frontline Plus and put just a couple drops on each bird twice a year. 1 vial will treat up to 20 birds.... For me it’s a heck of a lot easier catching them all once and being done with it. I have show birds too and need them to be in good feather condition.
 
Where are you taking the class? Sounds like a great way to learn.
Authorized Poultry Testing Agent courses

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The Minnesota Board of Animal Health and Minnesota Poultry Testing Laboratory will hold two Authorized Poultry Testing Agent training courses for interested producers around the state.
Both courses are 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. with registration starting at 7:30 a.m.
March 4, 2016 at the Willmar Conference Center in Willmar, Minnesota
March 11, 2016 at the Best Western Kelly Inn in St. Cloud, Minnesota

The course fee is $25, which includes a light breakfast, lunch and all course materials. All registration fees are non-refundable. Authorized agents must be at least 18 years of age to complete the course.
To register for one of the Authorized Poultry Testing Agent courses, please complete the online application below. Deadline to register is February 26, 2015. For questions, please contact the Minnesota Poultry Testing Laboratory at (320) 231-5170.
Register online.
 
Lice just make me itchy, my daughter caught them a couple of times from schoolmates.
Made me want to burn my house down!

*ugh*

Poultry lice are a bit different though. They eat feathers, not human hair. So if you are handling a bird with them, some might crawl on you for a little bit but they won't stick around because you don't have feathers for them to feed on. Still give me the heebie jeebies seeing them too.

If I get a really bad infected bird, the first thing I do is dump some Adams Flea and Tick DIP in a bucket of water. Soak the bird for about 5 minutes and dunk their head a couple times too (without drowning them). Then take regular Dawn dishsoap and give them a hardcore bath to get the majority of bugs off them. Especially rinse well around the head and vent. Then put a couple drops of Frontline on and blow dry the bird. They will recover pretty quick once all their nutrients aren't being sucked from them.
 
I have a question. Do any of u use egg cartons in the incubator to hand turn?? And if so what kind? Plastic or cardboard stuff.
 
@scandiafowl, if you are free that Friday in st cloud, you should come!! That's the one I'm going to!

With the frontline... is there a withdrawal period from eating eggs, and how long?

I'm tempted to try all of it to get rid of the buggers, lol!

@Destiny thanks for the info!! I think it's for sure lice. Rice looking, white nits.

@lalaland and everyone... here's the pics. The roo looks rough, but three basics are there to start a little flock. Closest I've found to American. Poor guy, lost his tips.

The hen looks like an English/American cross to me but has the lacing.

The last hen was just for more eggs. She had friendly eyes, lol.

The last pictures are of the coop we are building for them. Yes, I'm so glad we are practicing quarantining!! I'm also glad I have a very patient husband, lol!!

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@NathanZee Lol!! There are a few other things I'd like to say, but I'm not- just in case she is on here!! Let's just say that I probably made a poor decision. About using Frontline, is there a withdraw period for eggs? The lady asked if I wanted them to be wormed and she used some sort of wormer on their vents. Is that normal? Apparently she says it takes care of bugs too. Sure didn't seem to be doing much for bugs. She was shocked that a stool sample from my flock showed me not having worms after a year. I have been very persistent at keeping things clean. Isn't it normal not to have worms? Or is that a common thing with chickens?
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Better safe than sorry I guess! I don't know about your question, but I hope it isn't normal to have worms!
 

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