Hi John,Sounds like you have real Minorcas.Good ones are definitely huge,they are tall,long backed (preferred sloped ) and heavy. Some otherwise good birds lack the high shoulders and sloping back,and yet others are little bit loose feathered.These are minor defects which should be selected against. I sometimes use these defects as tie brakers when I have borderline birds that I am debating if to use or not for breeders.I would rather not use them. Small and narrow Minorcas are to be avoided,and short legged birds or knock kneeded birds are very undesirable. I keep repeating several things to drive home some important Minorca charateristics.The more common hatchery stock,needs to get back many lost qualities in order to even be considered Minorcas and I am afraid these poor hatchery lines are the only ones many people ever see and they are such poor examples of the Minorca breed.Minorcas of the standard required traits can still be found,but they are in the breeders yards .