MJ's little flock

[Ribh]

I haven't seen it or read about it. I know a women in Sweden who is studying the behviour of wolves but she's not breeding for any particular charactaristics.
I'm not happy about humans breeding for anything. We don't know enough to be doing it. Leave it to nature is my view.

I agree. It's just I'd seen it & wondered if you knew about it ~ & given the American propensity for meddling [sorry all my American peeps] it doesn't seem beyond the realms of possibility that it's @ least been tried ~ even if unsuccessfully.

I think I have seen something on the Swedish woman too. It's the sort of odd thing that interest me.

 

[Shadrach]

I agree. It's just I'd seen it & wondered if you knew about it ~ & given the American propensity for meddling [sorry all my American peeps] it doesn't seem beyond the realms of possibility that it's @ least been tried ~ even if unsuccessfully.

I think I have seen something on the Swedish woman too. It's the sort of odd thing that interest me.

I know her. She's been here a couple of times.

 

[RoyalChick]

I haven't seen it or read about it. I know a women in Sweden who is studying the behviour of wolves but she's not breeding for any particular charactaristics.
I'm not happy about humans breeding for anything. We don't know enough to be doing it. Leave it to nature is my view.

I read about it. Quite creepy.
https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12052-018-0090-x
It is a complicated topic - instinctively I agree with you - but very many animals we are familiar with today are the result of human intervention in one way or another. Certainly all livestock animals as well most dogs. Some cats for sure, but they are more complicated (of course) as the evidence suggests they domesticated themselves. Then there is the inadvertent human intervention - Scottish wild cats are becoming extinct because they interbreed with domestic cats is an example of that.
Oh, we seem to have found one of my soap boxes.
Chicken tax!

 

[Shadrach]

I read about it. Quite creepy.
https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12052-018-0090-x
It is a complicated topic - instinctively I agree with you - but very many animals we are familiar with today are the result of human intervention in one way or another. Certainly all livestock animals as well most dogs. Some cats for sure, but they are more complicated (of course) as the evidence suggests they domesticated themselves. Then there is the inadvertent human intervention - Scottish wild cats are becoming extinct because they interbreed with domestic cats is an example of that.
Oh, we seem to have found one of my soap boxes.
Chicken tax!

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It's a complicated topic but I came down on this side of the fence many years ago and I've seen nothing to make me change my mind yet.
Of course there are lots of associated issues which I don't have an answer for but as a moral view, or as a principle, depending on your view of life, I'm comfortable with my current view.

 

[RoyalChick]

I don't like the idea of chicks in the mail. They're so vulnerable.

It has been a big thing in the US since 1918 when the Postmaster General made it legal. That is the change that enabled the creation of these huge hatcheries we have in the US.
I drove to a farm 20 mins from my house and collected the road runners. That seemed a lot less stressful for all of us!

 

[MaryJanet]

It has been a big thing in the US since 1918 when the Postmaster General made it legal. That is the change that enabled the creation of these huge hatcheries we have in the US.
I drove to a farm 20 mins from my house and collected the road runners. That seemed a lot less stressful for all of us!

Oh! I didn't realise the history was so long. Surely if they've been delivering chicks since 1918, they'd know how to do it right by now. But I still share your preference for driving them straight home.

 

[MaryJanet]

I agree. It's just I'd seen it & wondered if you knew about it ~ & given the American propensity for meddling [sorry all my American peeps] it doesn't seem beyond the realms of possibility that it's @ least been tried ~ even if unsuccessfully.

I think I have seen something on the Swedish woman too. It's the sort of odd thing that interest me.

The English are meddling champions surely? Although the Belgians and French gave them a run for their money.

Tax of Janet on her very first afternoon at my house. I gave her bread so that she'd love her new home. The proper chicken food is out of the frame.

 

[LozzyR]

You make yourself susceptible by not taking care. Just like a soaked chicken in 30°F weather is more susceptible to illness so are humans. It is not good to ask our bodies to handle too much.

Good to know!

 

[featherhead007]

I haven't seen it or read about it. I know a women in Sweden who is studying the behviour of wolves but she's not breeding for any particular charactaristics.
I'm not happy about humans breeding for anything. We don't know enough to be doing it. Leave it to nature is my view.

Shad, I'll bet, you know many more than one woman in Sweden! Just saying.

 

[Ribh]

The English are meddling champions surely? Although the Belgians and French gave them a run for their money.

Tax of Janet on her very first afternoon at my house. I gave her bread so that she'd love her new home. The proper chicken food is out of the frame.

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I'm sure you're right, MJ. I was thinking specifically about some of the chicken posts I've seen here on BYC that have made me wonder what the perpetrators think they're doing!