MJ's little flock

[BY Bob]

Good evening MJ and everyone

Good morning Bob

Good morning all, especially Sue.

 

[rjohns39]

Good evening folks

 

[MaryJanet]

Ditto

Well, she ran for the nest this morning and gave Mary a surprise attack as she ran. It really was a surprise for poor Mary because Peggy had left her alone since Ivy gave up brooding.

I don't think Peggy's laying in there this morning. I think she's broody.

It's going to be a very warm day, low-mid 30s, which will encourage her broodiness if that's what she's feeling.

I won't take a peek just yet. I'll leave her be for an hour or so.

She may have been feeling broody a couple of days ago when she wasn't interested in food? An early vague out? Does that happen?

 

[Ribh]

Thanks for the reassurances guys. I just feel my fingers itching to help them along!

Good thing you don't have frizzles. We get twice the spikes!

 

[Ribh]

I need some help from my Aussie friends. On an episode of Bluey they discussed morning tea. Could someone enlighten me as to what "morning tea" is? I thought tea was at 4:00 pm?

Morning tea is the mid~morning break. The Brits sometimes call it eleveness. Usually includes a drink & a bikkie or 2.

 

[MaryJanet]

I need some help from my Aussie friends. On an episode of Bluey they discussed morning tea. Could someone enlighten me as to what "morning tea" is? I thought tea was at 4:00 pm?

It's not as formalised as that in my life, although it may be in some workplaces, especially if the workdays extend past 8 hours.

It's a 20-30 minute break for sustenance, both physical, emotional and psychological. A chat, a smoke, a beverage, a snack.

Assuming a 12 hour shift starting at 7, around 10.30 would be a good time for a break I'd have thought.

Afternoon tea is the same but it can be any time from 2-5. I once had a fancy tea at 2 and another time at 4.30. If I were scheduling an afternoon tea break for folks on a long shift, I'd suggest 4 providing people were going home at 6 or 7.

There's usually an hour's lunch break in the middle of the shift.

These things are usually specified in the bargaining agreement which binds both employer and employees. Bargaining agreements are signed off by industrial officials and are public record, not secret. Violations of bargaining agreements are bad news for both sides.

One of my friends is an industrial affairs magistrate and frequently uses his power to reinstate employees who have been unfairly dismissed or to order improved working conditions when bargaining agreements have not been respected or to fine recalcitrant employers or to settle bargaining disputes. In his worst cases he refers matters to the criminal court.

Bargaining agreements age out at three years (or longer if specified in the agreement itself - my conditions are specified in a 5 year agreement which is lapsing this year) and then a new bargaining round is commenced (the round at my workplace started last week). Usually each round consists of small changes but the arguing can go on for a long time. Sometimes parties do not bargain in good faith and then the dispute ends up at the tribunal.

Sorry for the industrial affairs lecture, I thought perhaps you were asking for professional reasons and that an ordinary person's understanding of how it all works might be informative.

Chicken tax!!

 

[Ribh]

It's not as formalised as that in my life, although it may be in some workplaces, especially if the workdays extend past 8 hours.

It's a 20-30 minute break for sustenance, both physical, emotional and psychological. A chat, a smoke, a beverage, a snack.

Assuming a 12 hour shift starting at 7, around 10.30 would be a good time for a break I'd have thought.

Afternoon tea is the same but it can be any time from 2-5. I once had a fancy tea at 2 and another time at 4.30. If I were scheduling an afternoon tea break for folks on a long shift, I'd suggest 4 providing people were going home at 6 or 7.

There's usually an hour's lunch break in the middle of the shift.

These things are usually specified in the bargaining agreement which binds both employer and employees. Bargaining agreements are signed off by industrial officials and are public record, not secret. Violations of bargaining agreements are bad news for both sides.

One of my friends is an industrial affairs magistrate and frequently uses his power to reinstate employees who have been unfairly dismissed or to order improved working conditions when bargaining agreements have not been respected or to fine recalcitrant employers or to settle bargaining disputes. In his worst cases he refers matters to the criminal court.

Bargaining agreements age out at three years (or longer if specified in the agreement itself - my conditions are specified in a 5 year agreement which is lapsing this year) and then a new bargaining round is commenced (the round at my workplace started last week). Usually each round consists of small changes but the arguing can go on for a long time. Sometimes parties do not bargain in good faith and then the dispute ends up at the tribunal.

Sorry for the industrial affairs lecture, I thought perhaps you were asking for professional reasons and that an ordinary person's understanding of how it all works might be informative.

Chicken tax!!

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Wow. I was working more from a school perspective. Morning tea break is usually about 11ish for 15 minutes ~ & you get a toilet break if needed then too. Afternoon tea is when the kid walks through the door in the afternoon having ditched lunch in a bin somewhere.

 

[MaryJanet]

Ivy still has her one tail feather!

 

[Ribh]

Ivy still has her one tail feather!

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That is so cute!

 

[MaryJanet]

Wow. I was working more from a school perspective. Morning tea break is usually about 11ish for 15 minutes ~ & you get a toilet break if needed then too. Afternoon tea is when the kid walks through the door in the afternoon having ditched lunch in a bin somewhere.

Yeh, i started off thinking of school and then I thought of Steve (the magistrate) and Nigel (12 hour shifts maintaining aircraft at qantas).