MJ's little flock

[BDutch]

She wouldn't have said it if it weren't right. No way. Doing so would be highly unethical and that profession in Australia is highly ethical - I was on a round table with several vets a few years ago and was impressed with the systemic ethical diligence they had set up and took for granted.

This is far off from what I have been reading /experienced in the Netherlands.
I wouldn’t trust an average vet in my country otherwise than taking money, and subscribing antibiotics without a good diagnosis.

The only one that seems to know something about birds other then chickens in factory farming around here seems to be a vet who works at the Zoo. Her practice is in another town not too far from here. I tried to contact her once, but she wouldn’t take a telephone consult according to the assistant. And I didn’t want to put my chicken in a stressful situation. Just wanted her feces examined.
After reading a bit I found my own way to resolve the problem. Or maybe Black got better on her own?

 

[MaryJanet]

This is far off from what I have been reading /experienced in the Netherlands.
I wouldn’t trust an average vet in my country otherwise than taking money, and subscribing antibiotics without a good diagnosis.

The only one that seems to know something about birds other then chickens in factory farming around here seems to be a vet who works at the Zoo. Her practice is in another town not too far from here. I tried to contact her once, but she wouldn’t take a telephone consult according to the assistant. And I didn’t want to put my chicken in a stressful situation. Just wanted her feces examined.
After reading a bit I found my own way to resolve the problem. Or maybe Black got better on her own?

No doubt the professional standards vary widely between nations.

I'm glad Black recovered from whatever was ailing her.

At the vets I've been taking the hens to, there are posters on the walls explaining why they don't always prescribe antibiotics. I guess they have clients who ask for antibiotics before a diagnosis is available.

 

[BDutch]

My first thought was the burglary was at your place, so glad to hear it wasn’t. And how very odd of your neighbours. Was the story that unfolded shush-worthy?

I first thinking (my first interpretation) was the neighbours had heard MJ shouting at the cyclist, without knowing what happened. And the shush wash meant to urge her to stop shouting randomly.
But if MJ wants to know, she has to ask the neighbour who did shush her. Sometimes we (I) make huge mistakes to interpret someone else’s behaviour.

Compliments MJ for being such a good neighbour.
I honestly think she must have seen you a couple of times before and you where not a stranger for her. If she has kids this can be a good reason for her to shush of course.

 

[MaryJanet]

I first thinking (my first interpretation) was the neighbours had heard MJ shouting at the cyclist, without knowing what happened. And the shush wash meant to urge her to stop shouting randomly.
But if MJ wants to know, she has to ask the neighbour who did shush her. Sometimes we (I) make huge mistakes to interpret someone else’s behaviour.

Compliments MJ for being such a good neighbour.
I honestly think she must have seen you a couple of times before and you where not a stranger for her. If she has kids this can be a good reason for her to shush of course.

I doubt the shouting at the cyclist carried into her house, which is old with very thick stone walls. Also, there were maybe five minutes between the shouting and the knocking and I don't think she knows my face. She's never said hello or been within 40 metres. I doubt she would know me in full daylight, much less at night.

It's basic decency to open the door with "Hello, would you mind keeping the noise down? The kids are sleeping."

 

[BDutch]

At the vets I've been taking the hens to, there are posters on the walls explaining why they don't always prescribe antibiotics. I guess they have clients who ask for antibiotics before a diagnosis is available.

Here its the other way around. The vets tend to prescribe antibiotics if they dont know whats wrong with birds. Many consumer-vets only know a lot about cats and dogs. The farmer-vets learned about large scale interventions and know little about curing individual chickens.

The doctors in hospitals hate it that the vets prescribe so much antibiotics.
Resistant bacteria are a real problem in hospitals. They are infected with resistant bacteria such as MRSA and bacteria with ESBLs. Doctors believe that this growth is related to the expansion of large scale factory farming. If a nurse or a doctor is infected (s)he cant work with patients for a long time.

If someone comes to the hospital he has to give their profession. In emergencies farmers always get quarantined to start with, bc many have infections with resistant bacteria.

 

[RoyalChick]

Here its the other way around. The vets tend to prescribe antibiotics if they dont know whats wrong with birds. Many consumer-vets only know a lot about cats and dogs. The farmer-vets learned about large scale interventions and know little about curing individual chickens.

The doctors in hospitals hate it that the vets prescribe so much antibiotics.
Resistant bacteria are a real problem in hospitals. They are infected with resistant bacteria such as MRSA and bacteria with ESBLs. Doctors believe that this growth is related to the expansion of large scale factory farming. If a nurse or a doctor is infected (s)he cant work with patients for a long time.

If someone comes to the hospital he has to give their profession. In emergencies farmers always get quarantined to start with, bc many have infections with resistant bacteria.

I thought EU rules forbade antibiotics. The US used to be more liberal on that front but there has been a tightening of the rules more recently.

 

[MaryJanet]

The youngsters are getting good at using the roosting box!

It helps that the hens have always considered the branch used by the youngsters to be a waste of space.

 

[MaryJanet]

Here its the other way around. The vets tend to prescribe antibiotics if they dont know whats wrong with birds. Many consumer-vets only know a lot about cats and dogs. The farmer-vets learned about large scale interventions and know little about curing individual chickens.

The doctors in hospitals hate it that the vets prescribe so much antibiotics.
Resistant bacteria are a real problem in hospitals. They are infected with resistant bacteria such as MRSA and bacteria with ESBLs. Doctors believe that this growth is related to the expansion of large scale factory farming. If a nurse or a doctor is infected (s)he cant work with patients for a long time.

If someone comes to the hospital he has to give their profession. In emergencies farmers always get quarantined to start with, bc many have infections with resistant bacteria.

Yes, superbugs are a huge problem.

These vets specialise in "exotic species pets" and do not treat dogs or cats or livestock. When Katie was in hospital with them, the other pet in the hospital was a python with digestive problems recuperating from surgery. One of the posters in the waiting room is a request for moulted feathers because they have a couple of patients in need of feather transplantation, which is not something I'd ever heard of before. They seem to know their onions.

 

[BDutch]

I thought EU rules forbade antibiotics. The US used to be more liberal on that front but there has been a tightening of the rules more recently.

Its forbidden to buy without prescription from a doctor or a vet.
I post what I found on my thread (see signature) bc I don’t want to spoil MJ’s thread.

 

[MaryJanet]

The Vulture has started trying to crow. It seems young to me. Is it young? I was hoping to have him around for a couple more months.