MJ's little flock

[Ribh]

I can't stand online teaching. It's so detached. Might as well be talking to the wall.

Again, on the other side, it makes tuts really frustrating as people take all semester to relax & open up so discussions are quite stilted. Tutorials should be the best part where there's a lively exchange of ideas. I don't mind lectures on~line. A lecture is a lecture ~ but the tuts...

 

[Ribh]

I think I must owe tax by now...
Cobweb.

 

[RoyalChick]

EndNote is a software that you can add on to Word and it does all that reference formatting for you. Your librarians can probably help you get it and start using it, if you want to give it a try.

I am long past my reference writing days, but wow that would have been useful!
I started on footnotes and references as a kid helping my Dad with his books. We used card index cards and my job was to write (hand write of course) and maintain the cards while the book was in progress.

 

[MaryJanet]

I am long past my reference writing days, but wow that would have been useful!
I started on footnotes and references as a kid helping my Dad with his books. We used card index cards and my job was to write (hand write of course) and maintain the cards while the book was in progress.

You've reminded me of a tutor I had many years ago. He was teaching us to code in machine language: binary and hex. He had an anecdote of the "DnS guys" who used to work up at Woomera. "DnS guys?" we asked. "Drop and shuffle. All the code was on punch cards."

 

[LozzyR]

Probably. The one UNE uses just seems bonkers to me.

When I studied law, we used AGLC (Australian Guide to Legal Citation) and when I was doing the music degree it was either Harvard or Chicago... often the only difference between some of these referencing systems is a full-stop... it's bats*** crazy! And you'll lose marks if you forget the full-stop (or put one in where it's not meant to go...)

 

[LozzyR]

Referencing tax (BFTP):

 

[Mother of Chaos]

Again, on the other side, it makes tuts really frustrating as people take all semester to relax & open up so discussions are quite stilted. Tutorials should be the best part where there's a lively exchange of ideas. I don't mind lectures on~line. A lecture is a lecture ~ but the tuts...

From the other (student) side, I cringe at synchronous (live) online classes. Maybe three out of 18 students are actually there, and when the poor professor tries to stimulate discussion and it’s dead quiet, ouch.

At least when some people use the chat box, he reads it out and comments.

Asynchronous classes avoid that, but I zone out after 30 seconds. It’s definitely not my learning style. I grumble driving in and looking for parking each day, but in-person classes are so much more effective for me.

- I will say that the occasional online course in a non-major class is a nice rescue when the scheduling gods are angry.

 

[MaryJanet]

From the other (student) side, I cringe at synchronous (live) online classes. Maybe three out of 18 students are actually there, and when the poor professor tries to stimulate discussion and it’s dead quiet, ouch.

At least when some people use the chat box, he reads it out and comments.

Asynchronous classes avoid that, but I zone out after 30 seconds. It’s definitely not my learning style. I grumble driving in and looking for parking each day, but in-person classes are so much more effective for me.

- I will say that the occasional online course in a non-major class is a nice rescue when the scheduling gods are angry.

The scheduling gods are not such a problem in Australia as so many of our uni programs have core courses, which students have to take. No other courses are presented to them by the enrolment software.

However, many nations overenrol their universities now that online "teaching and learning" is a thing.

I read yesterday that the uni in Luxembourg has a staff member for every 20 students, which is a very effective class size. Clearly they prioritise learning and intellectual development over economic drivers.