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Got the final neocropsy results in today. However, this is not going to be the last of it. Still waiting on toxicology on the feed tests, and viral tests for calcivirus, and whatever else could be causing it. The original is seven pages long. Since I don't want to type the whole thing, I am just going to post the basic findings.
I think, by doing
research on the net, that one of the findings means a lung, or rare lung, or
heart infection/damage. Another means they could have had a viral type of e coli. Someone on the meat rabbitslist said that heart damage can be caused by bad feed. So we will see.
Laboratory findings
from page 2)
Fecal examination: few coccidial oocysts
Respiratory culture: Few morganella morganii, rare enterococcus faecalis
Liver: Rare oligella areolytica
Page 3: Rabbit B: (rabbit B was the one with the broken back from the first
neocropsy report)
Heart: severe diffuse mycocardial loss and fibrosis
Lung: Moderate diffuse serofribrinous interstitial pneomonia
Kidney: Focal pygranuloma
spinal cord: Moderate locally extensive vacuolar myelopathy
Rabbit A:
Heart: focal mild mycocardial loos and fibrosis
Final diagnosis
Rabbit B:
Hepetatic necrosis(cause undetermined)
Bacterial septecemia(suspected)
Severe mycrocardial degeneration
Vertebral fracture with subsequent spinal cord degeneration
Rabbit A
mild mycrocardial degeneration
The most significant changes are within the liver. Possible differentials at
this time include viral infection (such as by calcivirus) and acute
aflatoxicosis. The changes within the lungs in addition to the pygranulomas
within the liver and kidney suggest underlying bacteria septecemia: however, the
bacteria cultured are most consistant with postmortem contaminants or
opportunistic overgrowth rather that the the inciting cause. This may be due to
antibiotic treatment prior to death. (dummy me gave them an accidental dose of
terramycin).
A clear cause of the mycocardial degeneration, seen in both rabbits, or its
relation to the other lesions observed was not found. Vitamin E/selenium
deficiency in rabbits is not clealry defined.
Also goes on to say that virology tests are pending. So are feed tests.
Page 5 talks about the bacteria culture in the lungs, and the antibiotics
susceptible to it.
page 6-7 says they found Escherichia coli in the intestine culture. No growth of
samonella. Goes on to talk about the drugs suseptible to it.
So according to that there may be a vriral test on its way, am I correct? I
still doubt its the calcivirus. You'd think I'd still be seeing problems with
them by now. I haven't had another death since they were dosed with
oxytetracycline, and put on purina rabbit chow.
Hopefully that right there has cleared up a lot that could be causing our
animals to die. Thoughts anyone?
So far I have got no response from the ARBA on the situation yet. However, one of the rabbit and cavy health commitee members (who is also a rabbit vet) saw my posts on the email lists and has been in contact with me over it. So through that person I assume they are aware of what is going on.
The person who was supposed to send theirs for a neocropsy at Perdue(SP?), never followed through with it. They wanted to treat their herd with albon. I think I finally convinced them today that they need to forget about the albon, and get the dead bunnies tested. Their vet is sending one in a couple of days. I think the mention of the calcivirus, and the e coli strain may have changed their mind.
I think, by doing
research on the net, that one of the findings means a lung, or rare lung, or
heart infection/damage. Another means they could have had a viral type of e coli. Someone on the meat rabbitslist said that heart damage can be caused by bad feed. So we will see.
Laboratory findings

Fecal examination: few coccidial oocysts
Respiratory culture: Few morganella morganii, rare enterococcus faecalis
Liver: Rare oligella areolytica
Page 3: Rabbit B: (rabbit B was the one with the broken back from the first
neocropsy report)
Heart: severe diffuse mycocardial loss and fibrosis
Lung: Moderate diffuse serofribrinous interstitial pneomonia
Kidney: Focal pygranuloma
spinal cord: Moderate locally extensive vacuolar myelopathy
Rabbit A:
Heart: focal mild mycocardial loos and fibrosis
Final diagnosis
Rabbit B:
Hepetatic necrosis(cause undetermined)
Bacterial septecemia(suspected)
Severe mycrocardial degeneration
Vertebral fracture with subsequent spinal cord degeneration
Rabbit A
mild mycrocardial degeneration
The most significant changes are within the liver. Possible differentials at
this time include viral infection (such as by calcivirus) and acute
aflatoxicosis. The changes within the lungs in addition to the pygranulomas
within the liver and kidney suggest underlying bacteria septecemia: however, the
bacteria cultured are most consistant with postmortem contaminants or
opportunistic overgrowth rather that the the inciting cause. This may be due to
antibiotic treatment prior to death. (dummy me gave them an accidental dose of
terramycin).
A clear cause of the mycocardial degeneration, seen in both rabbits, or its
relation to the other lesions observed was not found. Vitamin E/selenium
deficiency in rabbits is not clealry defined.
Also goes on to say that virology tests are pending. So are feed tests.
Page 5 talks about the bacteria culture in the lungs, and the antibiotics
susceptible to it.
page 6-7 says they found Escherichia coli in the intestine culture. No growth of
samonella. Goes on to talk about the drugs suseptible to it.
So according to that there may be a vriral test on its way, am I correct? I
still doubt its the calcivirus. You'd think I'd still be seeing problems with
them by now. I haven't had another death since they were dosed with
oxytetracycline, and put on purina rabbit chow.
Hopefully that right there has cleared up a lot that could be causing our
animals to die. Thoughts anyone?
So far I have got no response from the ARBA on the situation yet. However, one of the rabbit and cavy health commitee members (who is also a rabbit vet) saw my posts on the email lists and has been in contact with me over it. So through that person I assume they are aware of what is going on.
The person who was supposed to send theirs for a neocropsy at Perdue(SP?), never followed through with it. They wanted to treat their herd with albon. I think I finally convinced them today that they need to forget about the albon, and get the dead bunnies tested. Their vet is sending one in a couple of days. I think the mention of the calcivirus, and the e coli strain may have changed their mind.