Mottled Silkies?...Calling out for Silkie Experts.

[Teresaann24]

so a silkie bred to a barred cochin would be a good start for a cuckoo project?

What rules would appy here?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

F1s from that cross would not have silkie feathering, depending on whether the barred bird is the hen (yes) or the cock (no), it might be sex-linked. If the cock has two copies of barring, all offspring will be barred. If the hen is the barred bird, the sons will all be barred. If the cock is barred, but has only one copy of the gene, about half the birds will be barred, b ut you will not be able to determine gender.

Type should be between cochin and silkie, lots of footfeathers, dark skin, walnut comb, small crest, 5 toes.

 

[Teresaann24]

The pictures of your mottled girl is she a blue mottled?

 

[Teresaann24]

if silkies bred to a barred cochin and the OS from this mix were bred back to a black silkie would the os be barred or cuckoo?

 

[onthespot]

Barring/cuckoo is sex linked, not incomplete dominant. It also does lighten the skin and feet, especially on the roos, which carry two copies of the gene if they are pure for barring/cuckoo. There are already some pretty typey cuckoo silkies that people sell eggs on ebay. It would take you years, and probably hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to reinvent the wheel and create a new line of cuckoo or barred silkies from scratch. May as well buy eggs from a breeder and work on improving type.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

The difference between barred and cuckoo is the difference between the presence or absense of the slow feathering gene. IMO, on silkie feathers, I doubt you could tell the difference.

 

[SilverSilkie]

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I've just been bad about getting an uploading photos. I have two mottled silkies that are getting near breeding age. Showed the older one at Shawnee. I started with two blacks crossed to mottled cochins (so that I would have two lines to work with). Started about five years ago.

Yes, also my way of seeing a project as this one. Starting with 2 similar (related) lines. The most difficult cross is the F1XF1 because only +- 6,25% of the chicks COULD have h+/h+ & mo/mo at the same time. Than start the several double generations breeding back on good type Silkie (= loosing the mo/mo to Mo+/mo but keeping the h+/h+) to improve the Silkie qualities, and again brotherXsister cross (but with the double starting lines it can be done by cousinXcousine). After the 6th generation would become close to the objective but not yet show quality in the details.

In my opinion the luck that would be welcome in such a project for Silkies would be the appearance of "hysterical" mottling !

Sonoran how went on your project ?

 

[pokey]

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I know this is the reverse colors from the paint silkie, but is it genectically the same?

 

[SilverSilkie]

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I know this is the reverse colors from the paint silkie, but is it genectically the same?

It look a little the reverse color of paint Silkie but it's not so genetically !
Black mottled white is E/E S/S*S/- mo/mo (this is sure)
Paint is not sure but have E/E S/S*S/- I/?
That "?" is been told to be "i+" but also "I^P" even "mo/mo" is been mentioned but nobody is sure until now !

 

[KoriSAF]

I see that this thread has not been commented on in a while, BUT I am VERY interested in working on a Mottled line in my flock. I can start from the very beginning, but id prefer to get some F10-F15 generation birds so I can start working with them heavily in my program, and start exhibiting them in my area, NC. Does anyone have any eggs or birds that they would be willing to part with???