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Which is which?

I cannot even find  Leccinums versipelle in my books.
Okay, I know the inky caps. Have a beer and enjoy them...:lau



Nevermind I know which is which now.   The inky caps are the small ones for those that don't know.  The Bolete like ones are the  Leccinums versipelle I am guessing.  Are they a Bolete of some kind?





BTW drinking alcohol within 5 days of eating Inky caps can make you ill.


Alcohol before or after?

Doesnt really matter I suppose. I better avoid those like the plague. :D
 
Alcohol before or after?

Doesnt really matter I suppose. I better avoid those like the plague.
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actually it is both 4-5 days before and 4-5 days after. My cousin who likes his beer says they are just poison.
 
Boletus and Leccinum are different species.
Those of Leccinum species which I'm most familiar with are:

- L. Rufum or aurantiacum - stem whitish and covered with white squamules which may gradually change color to orange/brownish or brick reddish. Mature specimen will have pillow-like underneath of the cap. Cap can be reddish/brownish, orange/brownish or dark orange and have a light velvet texture. We used to call them back home a "Red Cossack". They like company of Aspen trees.

- L. Versipelle or testaceoscabrum - stem whitish and covered with black squamules. When cut or pressed it will change color to wine/gray-reddish. Cap can be ocher-yellow or slightly orange.

- L. Griseum - stem white/grayish and covered with grayish wisps. Stem will change color to black when pressed and when cut, it will change into reddish/violet. Cap can be brownish, brownish/olive or dark brown. They like company of Hornbeam trees.

- L. Scabrum - stem whitish and covered with grayish/black squamules which line up in upper part. Cap yellow/brownish to red/brownish. Likes company of Birch trees.

- L. Holopus - stem white and covered with either white or pale grayish squamules. When pressed it will change color to greenish. Cap off white (similar to the white eggshell) with slight green hue. Like company of Birch trees and wet woodlots or marshes. It was rare in Europe, back when I used to live there.

They look very similar and according to my experience don't have any poisonous look-alike's. I was quite surprise by the article regarding Scaber, which I posted couple pages back however, that was the only case I ever heard of in 50 years of mushroom foraging.

Regarding alcohol, there are some species which will become toxic when consumed with even moderate amounts of liqueur. Boletus luridus and Coprinus atramentarius (Ink cap) are two of them. Some chemical compounds in mushroom block metabolism of alcohol and it's concentration can reach critical level, causing ethyl alcohol poisoning.

Vtech
 
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Boletus and Leccinum are different species.
Those of Leccinum species which I'm most familiar with are:

- L. Rufum or aurantiacum - stem whitish and covered with white squamules which may gradually change color to orange/brownish or brick reddish. Mature specimen will have pillow-like underneath of the cap. Cap can be reddish/brownish, orange/brownish or dark orange and have a light velvet texture. We used to call them back home a "Red Cossack". They like company of Aspen trees.

- L. Versipelle or testaceoscabrum - stem whitish and covered with black squamules. When cut or pressed it will change color to wine/gray-reddish. Cap can be ocher-yellow or slightly orange.

- L. Griseum - stem white/grayish and covered with grayish wisps. Stem will change color to black when pressed and when cut, it will change into reddish/violet. Cap can be brownish, brownish/olive or dark brown. They like company of Hornbeam trees.

- L. Scabrum - stem whitish and covered with grayish/black squamules which line up in upper part. Cap yellow/brownish to red/brownish. Likes company of Birch trees.

- L. Holopus - stem white and covered with either white or pale grayish squamules. When pressed it will change color to greenish. Cap off white (similar to the white eggshell) with slight green hue. Like company of Birch trees and wet woodlots or marshes. It was rare in Europe, back when I used to live there.

They look very similar and according to my experience don't have any poisonous look-alike's. I was quite surprise by the article regarding Scaber, which I posted couple pages back however, that was the only case I ever heard of in 50 years of mushroom foraging.

Regarding alcohol, there are some species which will become toxic when consumed with even moderate amounts of liqueur. Boletus luridus and Coprinus atramentarius (Ink cap) are two of them. Some chemical compounds in mushroom block metabolism of alcohol and it's concentration can reach critical level, causing ethyl alcohol poisoning.

Vtech


Your mushroom knowledge is leaps and bounds ahead of mine. I try to read and comprehend what you write but am afraid I fail miserably. Keep up the good work, you are an asset here.


I have another goal along with King Bolete. I want the Indigo Milk Cap as well. GORGEOUS! Seen it on a website and I want to find one!


I had to look up the picture. Maybe I can find that one! I doubt it I have not seen anything like it.

I was driving home on the county roads from Princeton and I looked at parking area for the refuge and saw a bright orange chicken.

I immediately turned around and pulled in. I walked the entire 15 feet into the woods, only to find out I can not reach it. I need to get a ladder. The tree has 9 separate flowers in it, Some are huge, I estimate the tree has 50 pounds of edible chicken in it. I need to get it, but I am busy for next day. I hope it is still there and good tomorrow afternoon.
 
I didn't mean to complicate things more than they're
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. Picture is worth thousand words and my description may look intimidating, at first glance. However, those Leccinums have distinct stem features which combined with the cap make impossible to mistake them for other species. The only significant difference is the color/shade of squamulles on the stem as well as the color/shape of cap. I always considered them to be the one of the safest mushrooms for the beginners.
Their caps may appear slimy in humid weather and velvet-ish or smooth when dry. Some will darken when cooked and their texture will be more slimy, unlike Boletus which stays firm and some people dislike that "sluggish" form. Nevertheless, they're good mushrooms and rich in many minerals and vitamins. One word of caution: they're natural sponges which will absorb everything from the environment, including pollution, toxins and radioactive particles so, foraging them in highly polluted areas makes just as little sense and digging clams or other shellfish in questionable water basins. They both live on the bottom of their ecosystems. Don't mean to deter or scare anyone, just to be aware of possible impact of the surrounding environment. I used to pick Agaricus on the lawn, behind the house I used to live, in the middle of a large city but that was 50 yrs ago and I wouldn't do that today for sure.

Vtech
 
Combs Tooth harvest today! 2 lbs each to two different customers and one pound to keep. Also my new forager knife arrived! Banner day!



Stoked to be getting a new customer today and to have enough to offer two diff customers, Thanks Higher Power!
 

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