My 11 month old hen has been very sick off and on and I could really use some help.

DeLorean00

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Hello, everyone! I am new here, I have been lurking for a long time and reading all about everyone's chickens and learning a lot. I am a new chicken owner and I have 2 New Hampshire Red hens that I have as pets. I have raised them by hand since they were 4 days old and they are my best buddies.

However my favorite hen Big Red she is 11 months old and has been having a very serious health issue and I am trying to figure out what is happening, what I might do to prevent it, or what I might be doing wrong.

What has been happening is that I put her in her coop at night and she is fine, I put fresh scratch and water a few meal worms as a treat. The next morning when I come out she isn't able to stand and I see she hasn't been able to eat or drink throughout the night as she often likes to do. She is so weak that when I try to help her up she shakes and falls back down. Her tail is tucked down and her vent is covered in poop she wasn't able to move away from her nest to poop. She is hot to the touch and has no strength at all. This has happened 3 times now.

So right off I think egg bound, especially with the tucked tail. Each time she has done this she has laid an egg within 24-48 before and she always lays her next egg 12-20 hours into the sickness. But to be safe I always check her vent and give her a nice warm bath to soak. I can feel an egg sometimes but it is where it is normally when she is about 4 hours away from laying, so she does not seem to be egg bound any of the times she has been sick. Now inside her vent she is hot. Much hotter than normal. Her poop is extremely runny, large, and very strong almost coppery smell to it. It is white green and black.

Each time she has gotten sick I have taken a week off and nursed her back to health. I have to start by making her comfortable and cleaning all the poo from around her vent, next I make it so her water and food is right with her so she doesn't have to stand to eat, and every few hours I take her and stand her up and hold her up until she has time to make a poop. I also give her half a children's aspirin every 4 to 6 hours. It takes her a couple of days of me helping her eat and drink and move and she starts to be able to stand again, then she is able to walk, slowly and carefully at first. It kills me to see her go through this.

I feed her daily Purina Scratch Grains, crushed oyster shells, poultry grit mixed in, meal worms as treats, fresh sweet corn on the cob, and steamed corn off the cob. This time before getting sick I had given her watermelon and some cantaloupe but not anytime before.

She sleeps inside my house in a coop that is filled with wood shavings and she makes herself a little nest in the corner. I have been told she might be better off with a roosting bar so I have bought one. I change the shavings every week or so but it could be possible she is getting sick from contact with her own waste but I try not to let it bad. I clean her water dish every day so there is no grime left in it and she always has fresh clean water.

She does free roam the backyard from time to time and I it is possible she is eating something back there she shouldn't be. But aside from that, I am at a loss.

This is a massively long post. I don't expect everyone to read the whole thing, but I wanted to put as much information as possible in it so maybe someone can point me in the right direction. This hen is more to me than just live stock, she is bonded to me and I am bonded to her, she follows me around like a puppy I am not willing to give up on her.

Thank you all so much for any help you might offer!
 
First of all, thank you for the detailed post. It really helps us get the big picture.

When I got to the part about what you're feeding her, I stopped reading because I believe your hen's main issue is malnutrition. You see, scratch grains are practically empty of the kind of nutrition a laying hen requires. It would be the equivalent of a pregnant woman going nine months on just Snicker's chocolate bars, and then expecting to have the health required to nurse and care for an infant.

This isn't to say that other secondary issues aren't plaguing your hen. Poor nutrition lowers immune system defenses and opens up the path to all sorts of infection and system malfunctions.

The first thing to do is to buy some regular feed. I recommend either a chick grower feed or an all flock feed. They are almost identical - high in protein and vitamins. Next buy a bottle of Poultry Nutri-drench and give your hen one drop daily, and mix some into her water for the rest of the time. This will start building her health back up.

I am guessing her problems are egg related due to poor nutrition. This issue should correct itself once she's back on the road to good health.

I know how much you love your hen. I think you are going to be able to give her a chance at a long healthy life
 
I agree with the previous posters! When I read what you are feeding her, my first thought was your chicken's diet needs to change.

The second thing that popped out was her poop. (Yes, pun intended.) It sounds like she may have cocidius.

Please change the feed for BOTH chickens.

Please add the vitamins for BOTH chickens.

The roosting bar is a plus, but probably not a safe thing for your sick girl right now.

When I have had a sick chicken in the house, I change the bedding every single day. I use clean towels or blankets, not shavings. It makes it easier to see what is coming out and how much is coming out.
 
Scratch grains are only 8% protein and not a balanced diet. She needs at least 16% up to 20% maximum. Layer feed has 16-17% and all flock or chick grower has 18-20%. If possible, you may also want to take some fresh droppings to a local vet who can do a fecal test for coccidiosis or worms. A little probiotics or a tsp of plain yogurt 2-3 days a weeks can help a little with intestinal health. Chronic coccidiosis could be a possible problem, since she gets sick often, and has droppings stuck to her. Corid (amprollium) from a feed store can help treat that. Use it in the water for 7 days--1.5 tsp per gallon. Here is a little about that:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/publications/2/Coccidiosis Management/43/symptoms-and-diagnosis/
 
I recommend either a chick grower feed or an all flock feed. They are almost identical - high in protein and vitamins. Next buy a bottle of Poultry Nutri-drench and give your hen one drop daily, and mix some into her water for the rest of the time. This will start building her health back up.

Thank You! I had asked the feed store where I bought the hens and they are the ones that had been selling me the scratch grains and even with my concerns. Either they misunderstood what I was asking, or they did not understand chicken dietary needs as clearly I did not. So I am happy to have realised my mistake and feel awful for not knowing sooner. I have been also giving them bread daily. I have bought both items you recommended, but what other things can I feed my chickens to round out their diet?

Thank you so much for your help!

Whewww, ok. First off, if that is what you are feeding her, she is not getting proper nutrition. Is that all your feeding?

I feel awful. I had asked the feed store where I had bought the chickens and I they were the ones that sold the scratch grains and either they misunderstood or didn't know chickens well enough when I was wanting to buy feed for them. I have been feeding them bread as well. I have purchased now a grower feed, but would you have ideas of what else I can feed them to balance out their diet?
 
Thank You! I had asked the feed store where I bought the hens and they are the ones that had been selling me the scratch grains and even with my concerns. Either they misunderstood what I was asking, or they did not understand chicken dietary needs as clearly I did not. So I am happy to have realised my mistake and feel awful for not knowing sooner. I have been also giving them bread daily. I have bought both items you recommended, but what other things can I feed my chickens to round out their diet?

Thank you so much for your help!



I feel awful. I had asked the feed store where I had bought the chickens and I they were the ones that sold the scratch grains and either they misunderstood or didn't know chickens well enough when I was wanting to buy feed for them. I have been feeding them bread as well. I have purchased now a grower feed, but would you have ideas of what else I can feed them to balance out their diet?
Many feed store employees know nothing about feed- they just reccomend it because everyone knows chickens scratch, right?
 
I agree with the previous posters! When I read what you are feeding her, my first thought was your chicken's diet needs to change.

The second thing that popped out was her poop. (Yes, pun intended.) It sounds like she may have cocidius.

Please change the feed for BOTH chickens.

Please add the vitamins for BOTH chickens.

The roosting bar is a plus, but probably not a safe thing for your sick girl right now.

When I have had a sick chicken in the house, I change the bedding every single day. I use clean towels or blankets, not shavings. It makes it easier to see what is coming out and how much is coming out.

Got it! Feed has been bought and will be changed for both today! Was planning to wait on the bar either way but I agree to hold off. I have been changing their bedding since she got ill daily just to keep her as clean as possible and her sisters coop is cleaned too.

Thank you for the help!

Scratch grains are only 8% protein and not a balanced diet. She needs at least 16% up to 20% maximum. Layer feed has 16-17% and all flock or chick grower has 18-20%. If possible, you may also want to take some fresh droppings to a local vet who can do a fecal test for coccidiosis or worms. A little probiotics or a tsp of plain yogurt 2-3 days a weeks can help a little with intestinal health. Chronic coccidiosis could be a possible problem, since she gets sick often, and has droppings stuck to her. Corid (amprollium) from a feed store can help treat that. Use it in the water for 7 days--1.5 tsp per gallon. Here is a little about that:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/publications/2/Coccidiosis Management/43/symptoms-and-diagnosis/

Okay! I had given her yogurt last time she was ill and she loved it, I am going to go get more.

Thanks for the help!

I wish I came here sooner. I feel horrible she wasn't getting a balanced diet.
 
Many feed store employees know nothing about feed- they just reccomend it because everyone knows chickens scratch, right?

Exactly. They were friendly and helpful but they might just not have known what I was needing since clearly, I didn't.
 
It's not your fault. When I got my chickens I was feeding them only scratch, and then I opened the other bag that I got and it was layer feed.
 

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