Actually, we've been able to go one better than even that. Skye is very smart, but when it comes to rules, she has a very convenient case of selective memory loss. As soon as we put the (uncharged) collar on her, she automatically remembers every "manner" she's ever been taught ... including those concerning the chickens. Forget the collar, and she forgets the rules!If you have been doing it a while you can probably just use noise now. Just a thought![]()