Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[draye]

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Aaawwww.....What a pretty mommy and babies! 
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Awe! X2.

 

[draye]

3 of 8 Aloha Naked Necks.
Have a total of 11 new babies. I'm keeping of them this time around.

 

[DesertChic]

3 of 8 Aloha Naked Necks.
Have a total of 11 new babies. I'm keeping of them this time around.

So cute!!!

 

[draye]

So cute!!!

Thank you. Wished I could take credit for the breeding a but I can't. I can for one though it was a little black one hatched from my Green Egger Naked Neck young hen. I'm holding it to see if it is a pullet and if the green egg continues. The grandmother and the mother if this chick is still here. Both GM & mom lay green eggs and each had a parent that either laid a brown egg or came from one. The sure if this baby is a Black Jersey Giant.

 

[Kev]

3 of 8 Aloha Naked Necks.
Have a total of 11 new babies. I'm keeping of them this time around.

Oh wow you got NN Alohas, congrats! Love to see them as they feather out.

 

[Kev]

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Thanks! It's been way too long since I let a hen hatch babies. Had them over 20 yrs yet seeing a mother hen with brand new babies still make me smile..

p.s. Draye- the black chick is a possible blue/green egger. The father is the mostly black possible egger roo I'd posted in your thread a while ago. Hope to get bunches of pullets to test if they got the gene or not...

 

[draye]

Oh wow you got NN Alohas, congrats!  Love to see them as they feather out.

Me too, I'm so eager to get started on the Calico Naked Necks. I'm hoping to get the spots. I've got some regular Alohas too to help along the the Calico road.

Thanks!  It's been way too long since I let a hen hatch babies.  Had them over 20 yrs yet seeing a mother hen with brand new babies still make me smile..

p.s. Draye- the black chick is a possible blue/green egger.  The father is the mostly black possible egger roo I'd posted in your thread a while ago.  Hope to get bunches of pullets to test if they got the gene or not...

I'm watching for the pea comb. The lay batch of the green Egger NNs that just started laying all had pea combs but only two or three are actually laying green eggs. So if they are laying brown eggs do they carry the blue egg gene at all?

 

[Kev]

Me too, I'm so eager to get started on the Calico Naked Necks. I'm hoping to get the spots. I've got some regular Alohas too to help along the the Calico road.
I'm watching for the pea comb. The lay batch of the green Egger NNs that just started laying all had pea combs but only two or three are actually laying green eggs. So if they are laying brown eggs do they carry the blue egg gene at all?

What's the difference between Calico and Aloha?

The blue egg gene and pea comb are closely linked IF they happen to be on the same chromosome because their physical locations are very very close to each other. The linkage is very clear if birds with pea-O gene are bred with single combs. It is remarkably consistent in this case.


There are two issues that will mess with the pea-O gene linkage: breeding them with pea combed birds that do not have the O gene. Like Brahmas, Cornish, etc.

For example if you cross pure Ameraucana laying 100% blue eggs with Cornish. All of the cross chicks will be pea combed and lay blue or green eggs... BUT if you either cross them with each other or breed them back with a pure Cornish, all of the second generationchicks will be pure pea combed, however.. there will be a random mix of blue/green eggers and tan eggers.

It's the pea comb without the O gene 'buddy' that is making a mess of things.

This is a problem with Easter Eggers. They are deliberately mixed so there are going to be some birds lacking the linkage. But you can't tell by looking at them... same issue with the Ameraucana-Cornish mixes above.

So the pea combed birds laying brown/tan eggers are a result of a mix in the past similar to the Ameraucana-Cornish example. Once that happens, the pea comb is not reliable for telling which birds have the O gene anymore. All mixed up..

The other issue- very occasionally the pea and O gene will 'divorce' and they go to separate chromosomes without each other. That is how I got my own single combed blue/green egger NN.

The O gene separated by total chance from the pea comb gene and happened to switch over to a chromosome without the pea comb gene. It's an rare event and is why I kept a line- a genetic fluke.

But now, with the importations of legbars, isbars, my birds are no longer uncommon genetic flukes in USA. Oh well!

You can eventually get back to a 100% linkage but it will take some breeding tests.. one simplest way is to individually mate with a single comb browm/white egger.... if all of the pea comb daughters lay colored eggs, then the linkage is pure in the test roo or hen.

 

[draye]

Nothing is different between Aloha and Calico. I just like the sound if Calico in the Naked Neck chicken.

 

[draye]

My Easter Eggers have never laid brown eggs and the offspring of them have never laid brown eggs.

Most of the ones that I have laid green but quite a few more to the blue color than green.
I realize thought they probably have a lot of outcross to them. All but two if my foundation Easter Eggers came from Cackle Hatchery. One rooster and one hen cane from individuals locally. I take that back 3 another hen, are from individuals, not the third one is just now producing offspring this year.