Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Skink]

Werewolf and Hamster got their names last night! It has been taking me months to name all my serama but the naked necks have become such a center of attention that they couldn't go unnamed for long. These two are the biggest. I think Werewolf might be a roo just based on his lil tree trunk legs.



Pork got their legs under 'em too, no more wobbly baby steps for them!

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Okay, I'm really loving this little guy. His growth rate, while not quite as impressive as his father's, is still quite good with a 247.33% increase in weight since hatching, currently weighing in at 4.55 ounces at 2 weeks of age. And look at those thick shanks!!! I'm really hopeful that this guy will turn out to be a good breeder. None of my other boys in this group even come close to his gains, and so far his personality and vitality are fabulous as well. And his bow tie is quite small, which I really like.

Oh....and I named him Ozzy. All that black smudged below his eyes just reminded me of Ozzy Osborne for some reason.

Oh, yeah. Looks JUST like an Ozzy!!!!

- Ant Farm

 

[Kev]

Okay, I'm really loving this little guy. His growth rate, while not quite as impressive as his father's, is still quite good with a 247.33% increase in weight since hatching, currently weighing in at 4.55 ounces at 2 weeks of age. And look at those thick shanks!!! I'm really hopeful that this guy will turn out to be a good breeder. None of my other boys in this group even come close to his gains, and so far his personality and vitality are fabulous as well. And his bow tie is quite small, which I really like.

Oh....and I named him Ozzy. All that black smudged below his eyes just reminded me of Ozzy Osborne for some reason.

Hope he doesn't grow up to bite heads off bats.....

He also is great example of how homozygous NN chicks have those naked areas on the face.. the spot between beak and eye, above the eye and behind the eye between the ear. Those areas are all filled in on the heterozygotes.

 

[Phill98]

Hope he doesn't grow up to bite heads off bats.....  

He also is great example of how homozygous NN chicks have those naked areas on the face.. the spot between beak and eye, above the eye and behind the eye between the ear.  Those areas are all filled in on the heterozygotes.

Kev what color you thing he is getting?
I have to say that this one "caught" my eye

 

[Kev]

Werewolf and Hamster got their names last night! It has been taking me months to name all my serama but the naked necks have become such a center of attention that they couldn't go unnamed for long. These two are the biggest. I think Werewolf might be a roo just based on his lil tree trunk legs.



Pork got their legs under 'em too, no more wobbly baby steps for them!

Great pics! would not be too quick to sex by size in those as the pen had hens of wildly different sizes and types. Could end up with a huge pullet and a smaller, lighter cockerel.

 

[Kev]

Kev what color you thing he is getting?
I have to say that this one "caught" my eye

That's a hard one for me, as I'm color blind, I can barely tell he's not jet black but can't see what exactly his color is..

There is a gene called Darkbrown(Db) that turns chick down to a dark brown color. It usually has minor effects on adult plumage so that might be it or.... my other guesses maybe a gold birchen with lots of markings. I will have to wait and see until more feathers come out.

If it happens to have chocolate or dun then it will be bit of a struggle for me to see it(this is also the reason I just don't read much on those kind of color genes).. but they are still relatively new/rare genes in the U.S. hobby and am not too sure if it would exist in hatchery stock turkens?

 

[chickengr]

White is the hardest color to tell what to expect in crosses... as it;s actually a gene that prevents whatever color the bird has from showing up.. or it has another kind of gene that prevents black pigments only.

With the former kind of white, it literally can be any color or pattern and you will just have to be surprised in the cross and later generations.

If it's the latter, expect at least half or all white chicks.

BCM is a dominant color/pattern so I'd expect a lot of BCM looking chicks with some of them getting almost as much red as the araucana in picture.

Reds with that araucana= most likely a lot of cream downed chicks growing up either red or very close to his coloring... hard to tell what could come out of the white hen, she would be fun mystery one for sure.

thank you. sounds like nice colours to me.

the white one that I want to breed to BCM has a floppy comb and lays 5-6 eggs/wk. I guess she has some white leghorn blood. so dominant white + dominant BCM - what can I expect?

 

[Phill98]

That's a hard one for me, as I'm color blind,  I can barely tell he's not jet black but can't see what exactly his color is..

There is a gene called Darkbrown(Db) that turns chick down to a dark brown color.  It usually has minor effects on adult plumage so that might be it or.... my other guesses maybe a gold birchen with lots of markings.  I will have to wait and see until more feathers come out.

If it happens to have chocolate or dun then it will be bit of a struggle for me to see it(this is also the reason I just don't read much on those kind of color genes).. but they are still relatively new/rare genes in the U.S. hobby and am not too sure if it would exist in hatchery stock turkens?

I understand, thanks!

 

[Kev]

thank you. sounds like nice colours to me.

the white one that I want to breed to BCM has a floppy comb and lays 5-6 eggs/wk. I guess she has some white leghorn blood. so dominant white + dominant BCM - what can I expect?

dominant white x BCM= all cream chicks, some might have random little black spots and feather out white. Many will eventually show buff color on the necks(well, not on a NN lol), and the roosters will have the red on the same areas as on the BCM- on the saddle and wing bow.

If she is not pure for dominant white, then half of the above and half BCM. Might have some surprises, like barred, blue, or birchen pattern(same as BCM but replace the red with white) and possible in the later generations different patterns will show up such as either whites or reds with black tails, reds with white tails, birchens or whites with even more color, etc.

It's because dominant white really only works on black pigments and has little effect on the red/gold pigments so to make a solid white using dominant white, they have to first create a solid black chicken and they like to throw in other things like barring, blue, mottle etc to make the white color a cleaner crisper white and also the barring/mottle helps make the legs a solid color(by the way you will start to see white legs, possibly right in the first cross but for sure the later generations along yellow, possibly blue and green).

 

[Phill98]

thank you. sounds like nice colours to me.

the white one that I want to breed to BCM has a floppy comb and lays 5-6 eggs/wk. I guess she has some white leghorn blood. so dominant white + dominant BCM - what can I expect?

I did this cross few years ago. What I got was pyle (if it's the right way to say it)