Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Phill98]

I have rumpless araucanas. I am trying to breed a rumpless araucana cockerel with my NNs.

What is called the coloring on the first one? And how to get it? I really like it

 

[chickengr]

It might take far less time than you seem to think.

if I manage to get such a monster chicken I will post a pic!

 

[chickengr]

What is called the coloring on the first one? And how to get it? I really like it

I asked different people but everyone says mixed colours. if you google collonca chicken (the ancestor of araucanas) you will see that colour. so mother nature I guess.

 

[DesertChic]

how old is your biel rooster? Didn't you comment on the biels not having an easy time with the summer heat? If he was a cockerel last year, I would try to breed him first before Shiloh if room was limited just to be safe. That's just me though- get anxious about heavy non NN birds here due to their general poor heat tolerance. Many times a cockerel would make it through the summer only to drop the next summer as mature roosters... However breeding Shiloh over the big pullet would essentially be the same type of cross, except for the sex linked aspect via barred hen bred with non barred rooster.

That's why I love the NN.. so much less worry through the summers!

oh yes to the limited space.. except I'm coming from the opposite direction.. deliberately took down many pens and runs as imposed control on chicken math..

Hmmm....good point. My Biels will be a year old on March 1st. I still have two cockerels from that Biel and one pullet, but they're all crosses with Australorps. I had thought of crossing my Biel boys back to the Aussie pullet to potentially improve heat tolerance in the breed, but she's not even laying yet. Maybe I'll start by crossing Hansel (my big Biel) over the same gals I was going to mate with Shiloh...minus the Biel girls since they're not heat tolerant either. That would put Hansel over three White Rocks, two large Dorking mixes, and two or three NN girls. That might work.....If I can convince all existing tenants that a change in venue is a good thing.

If you're smelling smoke right now it's my brain chugging away as I rearrange my housing mentally and reconfigure my breeding plans.

 

[DesertChic]

I have rumpless araucanas. I am trying to breed a rumpless araucana cockerel with my NNs.

I have an Easter Egger cockerel that looks a lot like this but more red than golden! I've never been able to figure out if he's supposed to have a tail, but other chickens simply pecked out the feathers, or if he's tail-less. He's a super sweet mama's boy named "Chewy" (after Chewbacca, whom he looked like as a chick). I don't want to breed him because he's got crooked inner toes, but he's sort of become a family pet because he's always been so affectionate with all of us.



As a chick:

Okay...maybe he looked more like an Ewok than Chewbacca, but the name stuck.

 

[chickengr]

I have an Easter Egger cockerel that looks a lot like this but more red than golden! I've never been able to figure out if he's supposed to have a tail, but other chickens simply pecked out the feathers, or if he's tail-less. He's a super sweet mama's boy named "Chewy" (after Chewbacca, whom he looked like as a chick). I don't want to breed him because he's got crooked inner toes, but he's sort of become a family pet because he's always been so affectionate with all of us.



As a chick:

Okay...maybe he looked more like an Ewok than Chewbacca, but the name stuck.

he is adorable! nice colouring too. sweet as chick. I don't see crooked toes when he was a chick. what happened to his toes?

I think he is supposed to have a tail. if you compare his saddle feathers to my boy's you will notice they are different. my julio has much longer feathers.

 

[Kev]

I have an Easter Egger cockerel that looks a lot like this but more red than golden! I've never been able to figure out if he's supposed to have a tail, but other chickens simply pecked out the feathers, or if he's tail-less. He's a super sweet mama's boy named "Chewy" (after Chewbacca, whom he looked like as a chick). I don't want to breed him because he's got crooked inner toes, but he's sort of become a family pet because he's always been so affectionate with all of us.



As a chick:

Okay...maybe he looked more like an Ewok than Chewbacca, but the name stuck.

Here's how a chick pic can help a lot in guessing- that is a eb/dark brown chick down pattern so he is a darkbrown with Co.

as for rumpless or not- feel for the tail nose- the hard lump that sticks out. True rumpless lacks this bump,, the backbone abruptly ends.

You can even feel for it on day old chicks.

 

[Kev]

I asked different people but everyone says mixed colours. if you google collonca chicken (the ancestor of araucanas) you will see that colour. so mother nature I guess.

It is a common color pattern when a mixed color flock is allowed to breed freely for more than a few generations. Nothing to do with a particular breed or.... for example, if there is a starting flock of silver lace wyandotte, a red duckwing something, a sold black something and you let them freely breed for several generations, there will be some birds colored like her. Colloncas are basically village chickens with very little if any "color breeding".

At the best guess, that hen is a silver darkbrown with different genes added- maybe charcoal/hackle black etc she looks almost Quail pattern

 

[Kev]

Hmmm....good point. My Biels will be a year old on March 1st. I still have two cockerels from that Biel and one pullet, but they're all crosses with Australorps. I had thought of crossing my Biel boys back to the Aussie pullet to potentially improve heat tolerance in the breed, but she's not even laying yet. Maybe I'll start by crossing Hansel (my big Biel) over the same gals I was going to mate with Shiloh...minus the Biel girls since they're not heat tolerant either. That would put Hansel over three White Rocks, two large Dorking mixes, and two or three NN girls. That might work.....If I can convince all existing tenants that a change in venue is a good thing.

If you're smelling smoke right now it's my brain chugging away as I rearrange my housing mentally and reconfigure my breeding plans.

Improve heat tolerance in what- biels? I'm curious... what kind of body do the aussies have- more meat or layer? I've never had aussies so I'm wondering if part of their heat tolerance is due to leaning towards a layer type... if that's the case, this would seem to be basically breeding for a layer type biels via the heat tolerance selection.

 

[Phill98]

Here's how a chick pic can help a lot in guessing-  that is a eb/dark brown chick down pattern so he is a darkbrown with Co.

as for rumpless or not- feel for the tail nose- the hard lump that sticks out.  True rumpless lacks this bump,, the backbone abruptly ends.

You can even feel for it on day old chicks.

So that should also come from my dark brown
Hens and columbian rooster?