Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Flaisure]

I don't know if I'm asking this question right, but can anyone tell me what kind of NN this is. I know they have silkies and so on.

 

[DesertChic]

I was wrong about Zen having a brown feather.. :/ It was some of his/her yellow fluff still hanging around! lol...I love Zen, hope it's a girl.

Most of Zen's eggs have produced girls, most of them black like Heisenberg but a couple have been reddish-buff with black tails, but she did give me one amazing cockerel. He looked very much like Heisenberg and had a fantastic build, but he pursued his daddy relentlessly and was so determined to kill Heisenberg that I finally had to cull him. He was fine with all of the other cockerels and roosters on the property, but that boy figured out how to open the pen door and would do so the moment he saw Heisenberg, just so he could attack.

All of Zen's black girls trend towards being "petite", but have surprisingly hefty, compact bodies. Her red/buff daughters have longer and more streamlined bodies and prove to be exceptional layers.

 

[Cynthia12]

Some photos of the wings. They grow fast. Still cute babies!

Zen's



Prince


Prince



One of drayes..


Fezz


one of drayes..the reddish brown..looks to be a partridge in
coloring




Dolly also looks to be Partridge in coloring.








one of drayes



I'm going to lose track of who is who soon, I can tell. Except a couple that are different, like the partridge ones, they have different faces.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Quote: With the distinct weight difference between males and females in NNs, I've been wondering whether there is a true correlation with a female's weight and her offspring's size (vs., say, her father's weight). DesertChic, have you noticed anything among yours?

 

[Cynthia12]

So far Zen is easy to keep track of..a little white dot on the side of it's eye. Has puffy cheeks!

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

I hope people will forgive the cross post (I also posted on Breeding for Production), but here's today's data off the S&G broiler NNs (at 7 weeks):

As a reminder, these chicks had a very rough shipping experience on their way to me, and out of 25, one was DOA, and 8 more died in the following 4 days. Of those that survived, three were seriously small - two of those (a girl and a boy) began to catch up, one never did, and was finally culled when he got viciously attacked by the big boys in his brooder (who were 48 oz to his 18 oz) - he is not on the graph. So, all that to say, there was some variability in the start for these birds, and I don't know what lasting effect there will be. But they are pretty impressive even with all of that. As you can see, the biggest are approaching 4 pounds at 7 weeks, and will likely be well on their way to 5 pounds at 8 weeks. There are also some pretty big girls, one of whom (57) actually started as a VERY large chick, and has been the most friendly, sweet and loving of all of them.

Data:



Chart - Boys are orange, girls are purple, and for reference Tank (the very large boy from a previous cohort) is in blue. See how ALL of them (including all girls and all runts) are bigger than Tank was at 7 weeks?!

You can see in particular at the bottom one of the boys (71) really catching up. I expect the males and females to segregate by weight soon.


- Ant Farm

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Photos:

S&G Boys: (Comb development is lagging in some - but they're so big, I have to keep reminding myself they are only 7 weeks old!)


Largest boy (#64):











This one was severely stunted, less than 3 oz at 2 weeks, and has really been catching up (#71):

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

S&G girls:


Largest (and sweetest) girl, Heinz 57:







(I'm worried this one will somehow end up being a late boy):




And here's my sweetie snuggling with me on the brooder sill:



- Ant Farm

 

[DesertChic]

With the distinct weight difference between males and females in NNs, I've been wondering whether there is a true correlation with a female's weight and her offspring's size (vs., say, her father's weight). DesertChic, have you noticed anything among yours?

I've only recently begun tracking the girls' weights to determine whether that correlation exists. So far the only thing I know for sure is that crossing my big White Rock girls with my NNs definitely increases the size of the offspring irrespective of gender. Hopefully when I breed the second the third generation "meaty" birds I'll be able to see for sure.

Oddly enough, early hatching seems to correlate to larger size in my birds irrespective of gender. No matter how big the eggs, my earliest hatchers grow into my largest birds.

 

[DesertChic]

So far Zen is easy to keep track of..a little white dot on the side of it's eye. Has puffy cheeks!

Whisker cheeks? Or just puffy?