Naked Neck/Turken Thread

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Obviously I'm not an expert, but black #1 and #2 look like boys to me. My 20 week old's comb is just about that big now and her face is also barely red.
Buff #1 girl, buff #2 boy.
 
Good call Catsew. I didn't respond because I'm not very good at this unless it's SCREAMING cockerel.
I'd say #1 roo, #2 I dunno, #3 pullet, #4 roo and # 5 I dunno.

The leg color can be any color depending on the parent birds. I have a roo with white legs and a hen with slate
legs and both of their babies came out with yellow legs. If I had another roo I'd have accused the hen of being
promiscuous.
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But I don't so I know that the yellow legs came from a grandparent somewhere in it's lineage.
Your bird looks like it's legs are almost green. Since you have EE's is it possible that you have a NN/EE mix there?
 
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the 2 black ones are cockerels

the 1st buff a pullet the second buff is a cockerel and the last buff needs a better pic
 
OK, Good news!!!!!!!!!


I got some new colors I can start to work on for the NN I wanted.

first I got this red rooster with yellow legs at the flea market * along with a 2 month old red pullet not the one pictured *
the pullet in the pic came from a friend of mine.


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the cockerel is a WR the other white pullet *I REALLY LIKE* she has yellow legs
and the other hen with grey legs was born here, but I'm still using her since I ain't got much to work with.


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Also hoping to get my BLRNN from these

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and by next year I shall have some grown birds from these * don't mind the orp pullet *
 
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Can't be a mix on my end... those are my first NN's and EE's. If it's a mix, it must have happened on the breeder's end, but I was under the impression that all she had was NN's. I was curious when I saw those legs, too. i don't understand all this chicken genetics stuff yet, so leg color is still foreign to me.
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I was thinking the same thing... both blacks look like roo's just based on the redness of the face and size of comb. I was almost positive the slate legged pullet was indeed a girl, and I'm thinking that #3 is a girl too. #2 buff I'm pretty sure is a roo... MUCH bigger than the other two buffs. Nobody's crowing yet, so I guess they don't want to help me out either!
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Happyhens, some hatcheries deliberately mix the NN stock for a "variety of colors"(McMurray catalog even said so, for many years). It appears to be mostly a color crossing thing in the hatchery stock as they largely look rather uniform in type but probably there was some outcrossing to other breeds*, causing a wide range of leg colors in the hatchery stock- white, yellow, slate, willow, black.

Leg color is due to three main factors- skin color on whole of body(white vs. yellow), presence or absence of a layer of pigments(independent of the body skin pigment) in the legs and finally, in some cases due to plumage color(the two types of black feathering genes also happen to put black pigment in the leg).

As to your bird in question- slate legs is just the combination of white body skin plus presence of a layer of pigmentation in the leg skin. Had the body skin been yellow, the legs would have been visually green/willow. It's the visual combination of the leg pigment + white skin or yellow skin.

Clear yellow or white legs are usually yellow skinned & white skinned respectively with a gene that says "no pigmentation in that layer of leg skin", so the body skin shows through on the legs without any extra color added.

*for example, white skin is dominant over yellow skin(which standardized NN are supposed to have), the presence of white and slate legs indicates there was an outcross to a white skinned breed/bird somewhere in the past(long time ago, I've been seeing both of these leg colors 20 years ago, probably went back even further.. saying this so nobody will think it had to be a very recent event). It also being dominant and not culled out really helped it to "float" down around for generations on end. Probably was not culled out because it didn't really matter and/or they wanted to preserve a wide range as part of variety of colors goal.
 
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Thanks for the great explanation!
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These NN's came from a breeder in PA. They are really beautiful, I just didn't know about the slate leg gene.
 
Yellow legs may be a standard thing, but when I get my NN I'm going to actively look for slate or dark legs. I'm not a fan of yellow legs.
 
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I have a roo with white legs, a hen with slate and another hen with slate...still got yellow legs on both chicks.
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I have a roo with white legs, a hen with slate and another hen with slate...still got yellow legs on both chicks.
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Things like that are why chicken genetics gives me a migraine!!!!!
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