Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

Hi! That's why I don't go to the feed store!
These two are bare-neck single comb bantam Naked Necks (I like the look):

I get clean hens, but for every clean boy I hatch, I hatch several leaky boys --- due, I guess, to the buff NN girls I started with.

Lisa

 

[Kev]

How do you get the feed then?

I don't like it when they have chicks! Usually I am okay because most of the time, no turken chicks. That's easy.. not interested at all! LOL But was challenged today for sure.

Probably is heresy, I like the little bowties with just a few feathers better than total bare necks.. not sure why. Suppose I might go get the chick if they really are that rare.. just to save it for breeding and spreading the total bare neck genes around.

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

Hahaha, Darlin' Tom knows how much feed I use and brings it home --- that is the beginning and end of his involvement with the chickens (other than to fuss when there are too many youngsters running loose ["Shouldn't all these chickens be IN PENS somewhere?"]. He's learned that's better than ME gong to get feed and I appreciate the fact that I don't have to go get it.
I explained 'closed flock' after he brought the feedstore rooster and feedstore ducklings home (that was in '06).
Not heresy at all. Depends on the individual bird, but sometimes it's a good look and sometimes not.

Lisa

 

[Kev]

Hahaha that's awesome! Perfect life.

 

[pgpoultry]

I have two girls with no bow tie (one has a single tiny feather) , both have single combs, with my third girl having a bow tie and single comb.

Am I right in saying that the 'nakedness' is sex-linked to the male side? (so very 'naked roo will tend to produce very naked chicks?)

Sandie

 

[gwill23]

I got a chick from my naked necked and a RIR rooster and she has all of her feathers. She has that black with the shinny green color when the light hits her just right but she definately lost the naked part of the geans. she is very nice.

Here is a picture of mom and daughter

 

[Kev]

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Cool! Where did they come from? All of us would love pics.

It's not sex linked at all.. but there is some degree of difference between male and female "nakedness"- with everything being "equal", the roo will be more naked looking as an adult. It's like how the roosters in general are bigger than the girls, a sex-difference thing.

General-wise(talking about pure for the NN gene here), there is some degree in difference of nakedness. Some have huge, naked areas all over their body, others have naked necks but their bodies don't have all that much naked space(comparatively to other NN) & have a lot more feathers. Likewise for the bowties- a small one with a couple feathers on each side is the most common.. with some having more feathers, or others have only one feather, like yours. Totally bare necks seem not that common. I don't know the genetics for this or any of the other variable traits.. like is totally bare neck dominant or recessive or ?? to bowtie being present?

The reason I mentioned single combs is because pea comb is known to have side effect of reducing the overall number of feathers on the body, which becomes obvious when crossed with a NN. Example if you cross a pea comb (not naked) with a NN the chicks will look 'nakeder'(smaller bowtie and naked spaces on the face and around comb) than a cross between not naked single comb with a NN- those normally have huge bowties with lots of feathers hiding most of the lower neck, chicks usually have fuzzy looking front necks due to large bowtie and faces are fully fuzzy.

 

[pgpoultry]

Hi ,

I posted a picture of my girls (I hope) lying in the sun on page 49 (Treacle, Morticia and Frankie N Stein.......thought she was going to be a roo). The picture is not so clear, so when the deluge outside stops I will take some more pics. Treacle has a totally bald neck, Mort has one tiny feather and is bigger with a larger single comb, and Frankie has a bow tie.

They have single little combs and are getting very red around the crop and face.

I bought them locally here in Wales from a lad (aged 14) who had just started to do his own breeding (enterprising!) as a means to make extra cash. I am therefore quite prepared for somebody to tell me they are poor examples of NN or that I don't know what I am talking about as I am very new to these little darlings having kept Brahmas, hybrids and mutts for years.

Sandie

 

[Kev]

I missed those. Cute pics. *love* the names.

They seem to be good examples- black is an accepted color and if they have yellow skin- can check their soles if you don't know(it's more obvious on day old necks), then they pass with flying colors.

For some reason a few large fowl pullets grow a fair size comb quite early. Some even get color.. That's still a sign of possible cockerel, but more reliable is looking for the rooster feathers on back and saddle. Separate the feathers on back and especially over the hip area to see if any new feathers are coming up pointy and super shiny.

Looks like all are pure for the NN gene, including Frankie- extra evidence besides small bowtie are exposed shoulders. Can see shoulders very clearly on the other two in those pics.

You had good luck and that lad did good.

 

[pgpoultry]

It's about time I got something right.....I've just posted on "Breed and Gender" about the little yellow fully feathered sole hatchling from 6 eggs which were sold to me as 'fertile' NN eggs.

I love the look of the Frizzle NN's, they look really wild.

sandie