Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Kev]

I see postings every once in a while for Oshamo chickens and I wonder what a NN cross would look like? I can only imagine.

Done it with shamo and asil. Body is more like NN, only heavier and meatier. If the NN is big, then they can throw pretty big and heavy birds. Tail and body are horizontal on most but some do stand up a little bit.

Basically nothing too extreme however can clearly 'see' the shamo/asil in them. For more shamo looking birds, breed back to pure shamo and a good number will have lots shamo features in them.

They were great broodies, used them and cornish mixes to set on peafowl eggs.

p.s. I currently have a pair of Oshamo... have not bred them with NN though. If you maybe like the look, check out Malgaches- Madagascar games.

 

[Miss Lydia]

I have a question about my new rooster, he is settling in very well but I noticed today his skin on his neck is dry and kind of peeling, is this normal? since I've never had a chicken with this much skin showing so I'm not sure. Also his wattles are so long and huge do I need to do anything special for him to keep him frost free this winter?.. He is such a gentle guy to be so large and my 2 bantam roos are giving him such a hard time, 2X today I found him hiding with his head down I guess to keep my Game/bantam roo from harming him. I'm not sure what to do about this, This huge NN could easily kill my game/bantam but thank goodness hasn't shown any aggression at all but it is making it awfully hard on himself. Any answers would be appreciated.

 

[ShayBaby]

I have a question about my new rooster, he is settling in very well but I noticed today his skin on his neck is dry and kind of peeling, is this normal? since I've never had a chicken with this much skin showing  so I'm not sure. Also his wattles are so long and huge do I need to do anything special for him to keep him frost free this winter?.. He is such a gentle guy to be so large and my 2 bantam roos are giving him such a hard time, 2X today I found him hiding with his head down I guess to keep my Game/bantam roo from harming him. I'm not sure what to do about this, This huge NN could easily kill my game/bantam but thank goodness hasn't shown any aggression at all but it is making it awfully hard on himself. Any answers would be appreciated.

Wish I could be more help, but (fortunately?) I haven't had to deal with roo squabbles yet surprisingly (since I have a good 10+ roos in a small confined space together). When my girls get violently bossy, though, the ol' "lock 'em in a crate on public display for a day or two" knocks them off their high horse. Not sure if it would work the same for dudes. It's both a blessing and a curse that NNs are so docile it lands them at the bottom of the pecking order. Mine have now taken to flipping the plastic tub nest boxes upside down on top of themselves to hide from the others. Sounds smart, but by the time I find them, they're soaking wet from moisture buildup and almost suffocated. As for wattles, I'd say keeping a thick coat of Vaseline on and making sure there's ample ventilation, he'll be ok.

 

[Flowerbh]

Do you guys process your own chickens? Is it hard to do....as emotionally? I'm having trouble even giving away a hen who has stopped laying (5 months now), knowing she will probably be eaten. She is only 18 months old.....not broody or molting.....My husband says he will never eat any of our "pets" so I have to give them away. I just wonder if I had them processed away from home, if he would know or if it would upset me too much to eat any of them myself. Where would I look to find people who will process a chicken? Are they called something special? Oh, I'm so confused about all this processing stuff. Like I said, I'm having trouble giving away even my unwanted roos! I somehow feel like I am betraying them. Silly, right???

 

[Kassaundra]

18 months is soon to be stopping laying.

I do process my own, I read on here where others have them processed they would know what to call the person where it can be done for you. They pkg them just like the store, so I would say put the ones you have done in the freezer until it isn't so "raw" of feeling then prepare for food, and if you think it will be a problem still use the pieces instead of the whole, or cook the meat off the bones and use in casserole.

 

[Kev]

18 months is soon to be stopping laying.

I do process my own, I read on here where others have them processed they would know what to call the person where it can be done for you. They pkg them just like the store, so I would say put the ones you have done in the freezer until it isn't so "raw" of feeling then prepare for food, and if you think it will be a problem still use the pieces instead of the whole, or cook the meat off the bones and use in casserole.

good advise. The first few are always the hardest, then it gets easier.. but still get a slight feeling of dread every time when getting ready to butcher. Having someone else process probably would make it a fair bit easier... Eating them has become non-issue. especially after a couple delicious dinners......

Home grown chicken carcasses do look different from 'store chicken'. especially if the bird was light or stanard size breed. If a concern, doing them in pieces and/or deboned(boneless skinless breasts?) would be best.

I suspect that hen hasn't really stopped laying. Could be just not very productive.. lines or breeds not bred for production can lay much fewer eggs or take a pattern of something like months of no eggs between 'clutches'. For example the oshamo hen probably has laid a grand total of 40 eggs in a year.

 

[flower]

I also process my chickens. The first one was very difficult because but now after having move experience and learning how to put them down more calmly by holding them for a bit with their head down they become more docile. You can either soak them in brine for a few days in the refrigerator or freeze them.

When you think about how much food that you have fed the birds, you soon convince yourself that it would be a waste not to eat the excess males and the older hens which no longer produce eggs. It makes me feel that I am doing myself good to know where my food comes from and know that it contains minimal additives. (CHEMICALS)

 

[Kev]

I have a question about my new rooster, he is settling in very well but I noticed today his skin on his neck is dry and kind of peeling, is this normal? since I've never had a chicken with this much skin showing so I'm not sure. Also his wattles are so long and huge do I need to do anything special for him to keep him frost free this winter?.. He is such a gentle guy to be so large and my 2 bantam roos are giving him such a hard time, 2X today I found him hiding with his head down I guess to keep my Game/bantam roo from harming him. I'm not sure what to do about this, This huge NN could easily kill my game/bantam but thank goodness hasn't shown any aggression at all but it is making it awfully hard on himself. Any answers would be appreciated.

Aww. It's the game blood in him that makes him keep it up but the good news is he has not seriously blooded him... hoping this means he is not 'so game' and will eventually loosen up on bossing him around? The only thing would be to give time and make sure he is getting to food and water.. if he's being kept away constantly, give other sources so the roosters can't monopolize.

The neck- perhaps from stress, should go away once things mellow up for him. Normally no care necessary for necks.. no lotions no sunblock etc lol.

 

[flowerchild59]

I was excited to see on the cover of the 2013 Saveur November issue a pair of roasted naked necks. The article was about the virtues of heritage fowl. Way to go naked necks!!!!!!!

 

[Kev]

I was excited to see on the cover of the 2013 Saveur November issue a pair of roasted naked necks. The article was about the virtues of heritage fowl. Way to go naked necks!!!!!!!

Way cool! Did it mention NN in general or the several NN breeds developed in France(apparently free range NN broilers are popular there?) and elsewhere?