Naked Neck/Turken Thread

Not surprised you got mixed reviews. It's a much more complicated question than it seems.
Okay, another question that I get mixed reviews on - do you have to breed the same colors together? How big of a deal is that, really? Can't I just get 2 roosters and 4-6 hens and there you go? For example; if I get a black roo, can't I breed it to a black, red, white, partridge, barred, etc...? And maybe a white or buff roo to breed to red, white, and buff? I mean, cuz I just do NOT have the space to have 1 rooster of every single color, but yet, I'd like a varitey of colors. I thought I could get a nice variety of hens and only 2 roos and just keep all of them in an enclosure together.

Same w/my other breeds I want. If I don't want a bunch of 'barnyard mixes', then I'm going to have to keep a seperate run for each color of each breed? Good grief! I'll have 15-20 runs! LMAO!!

There are two main things: show and non showing- pet, utility etc. A majority it seems are interested in pet or utility and color is not important . For that "market", it is perfectly allright to mix the colors. With show stock, it really really is best to have the colors separated at breeding because while solid black, solid buff, solid white seem to be such "simple" colors but solid buff is one of the most genetically 'complicated'(many genes) and so the hardest to maintain and the quickest to 'mess up'- will be a long time to get solid buffs again if mixed with another color.

Black is a little simpler but it does require being pure for a couple genes for them to stay solid black and the tricky part is they have the problem of chicks growing up seemingly solid black only to get some off-color once they mature and some hens not pure for "solid black" can be visually solid black but keep throwing her not-pure genes to chicks and off color can show up in these.. making a solid black line a 'long term project' if mixed up.

Example: breeding solid black to a red or buff will give chicks that seem solid black but they will show off color as they mature(pictures of black sex links are great examples of this), and so they can't be shown or sold to people interested in showing.

However there are some exceptions- white. White is not a color, it's merely a gene that prevents pigmentation from being put into the feather. They can be genetically any color under the sun but you can't see it. Most whites are genetically black chicken because this combination tends to produce a cleaner, crisper white. Genetic black chickens can be mixed with black chickens 'just fine' for this reason.. except IIRC, the show standard calls for clean yellow legs in whites and black legs on blacks.. which is a problem because for whites with yellow legs the trick is to breed in barred, sex linked dilution, possibly with other things like mottle as these also have an effect on skin pigmentation and they turn otherwise black legs into clean yellow legs. If barred/cuckoo NN is your interest, you could mix them with whites for this reason.. they'd all be supposed to have as yellow legs as possible anyways...

Buff to red is not a good idea either, as buff is very complicated and hard to get even buff coloring.. getting buff roosters without darker shade saddles than body would be a big problem if they were crossed.

as you see- so much detail and differences, not an easy one to answer.
 
Hello nn lovers.
i have a LF blue nn roo available to the right home.He was from florida,cant rmember the ladies name we bought them from as chicks.maybe allison can chime in.
anyways hes around 1 1/2 yrs old or so and he is on the bottom of the pecking order and is getting pretty beat up over here.Id love for him to fit into the main flock but im not sure that will ever happen.he keeps to himself and hangs out on the perimeter of the flock just out of reach of the other roosters.seems hes not sure what to do and where to go.i feel so bad for him.much to pretty to put on the table.

ill get a photo of him but he does have some fight scabs on his crest now.
im in ramona

if anyone has ideas to better intergrate him id love to try that too.we have never has issues with roosters over here before but we also recently had to put down our main rooster that kept the younger ones at bay.maybe thats why all is in disarray and that they are now maturing too.
 
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I just got my first Turken today. Her name is Big Bertha.
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Kev ~ Thank you. Yes, I am mostly looking for fun/pet to keep for myself and the kids and yes, also for eggs. However - the problem I'm trying to forsee is if I want to hatch out some of the eggs on occassion and sell them. I could care less about the color and purity, but if other people do then I might have a problem selling the offspring. I supppose that holds true for any of the breeds I'm interested in. So I'm trying hard to limit the amout of breeds I bring in and whatnot.

Also - NN's come in standard AND bantam sizes, right? I guess I'd strongly prefer standard size but wouldn't mind a couple bantam females just so that my small few other bantam chickens that I have don't get over-run by all the bigger ones I get. I'd like to have a "small group" of bantams.

Signing chickens ~ what color would Big Bertha be? (new, trying to get a grasp on things)

Silver Fox ~ What color is the white one? And I guess you'd better change your signature now, eh? LOL!
 
There is a small animal auction in Kendall, Wisconsin, next weekend (Sat. May 18th). Is anyone going to be there? Or is there anyone in Wisconsin that is within a 2-3 hr drive from Wisconsin Dells?
 
Just wondering what hatchery seems to have more blue NN's? I bought a nn chick at a feed store and was the prettiest red and blue coloring but I mainly see a lot of red and buffs coming from hatcheries
 

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