Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[hdowden]

The cock you like seems to be a true crele. The others are not crele- more like barring over 'mixed color' birds. There is a very bad problem with people calling any barred bird showing color other than b/w as crele. It's long been a pet peeve of mine.. flares up at seeing mixed color birds being sold at high prices just because of the crele label... anyways:

Crele is barring(same barring as on barred rocks) on a clean red duckwing. That's it.

It seems you do like the true crele coloring as indicated by your comment on that one cock- he is showing the red duckwing pattern. The other birds are showing buff influence, that is why the others are so light colored. That NN cock seems close to crele- just has a gene from buffs or something changing the red to a buff shade and also adding too much colored areas.

It's easiest to study crele by getting familiar with red duckwing roo and hen color and patterns. Then you will be able to recognize what are true creles- the breasts on roos should be b/w, with a well defined duckwing patch. Chicks should hatch same as red duckwing- sharp chimpunk pattern except the colors is a little faded looking and males can have a white patch on back of head.

The first pullet can work for your project especially if she is related to the cock you like, but they will produce lots like her and also roosters with white/buff breasts instead of b/w. Probably could get some nice creles by breeding daughters out of the NN with that one roo you like the coloring.

Personally I would hunt around for a clean red duckwing hen of any breed or whatever type you like and breed her with the NN roo, should get some NN true creles from that.

i was looking into getting old english games to go with him but it is hard for me to really tell the BBred from the wheatens though. what should i be looking for when it comes to identifying the 2 colors on pullets?

yes that roo is gorgeous but i don't want the floppy comb nor the white ear lobes though with selective breeding i could weed it out over time but i know after all that that it could still pop up in the future...this can be discussed on the other thread for easier finding and so it doesn't get lost in this one as well

 

[birdmaniac3000]

if anyone is inteested i am selling this little guy or trade if inteested pm me thanks

 

[hdowden]

if anyone is inteested i am selling this little guy or trade if inteested pm me thanks

WOW look at that comb!!

 

[hdowden]

KEV: how does this hen look as far as creole goes and how much would you say she is worth?

 

[flower]

KEV: how does this hen look as far as creole goes and how much would you say she is worth?

I posted on you other thread. Of course KEV sums up the enitire answer like a PRO. To me theat hen is a crele. My Legbar hen has similar coloring. The bird in the picture looks young. As far a price, price is depenent on the market and if you find some one who wants to spend money. What is her background ?

 

[flower]

hdowden Just after I posted it occurred to me that you may be considering the purchase of that hen. Does she have pink feet and skin ? It looks that way in the photo. How much would you pay for her. I payed 25 for my Legbar hen and I seriously like her but the rooster is a jerk. Maybe he will improve with age.

 

[PsycoPeep]

Partridge, 3 silver penciled, birchen.

 

[flower]

PsychoPeep cute cute cute very nice photos

 

[Freia]

I have the world's cutest and sweetest Turken (I know, we ALL have the world's sweetest and cutest). I named her Ameilia Earhart. She wants to fly so badly, but she really would be better off if she didn't.

I got her last may as a 1-day-old chick. She started laying in November, and did a great job laying 3-4 eggs a week all Winter. Then in April, when all the other hens were starting up, she just stopped. Why? Is this normal for a Turken? I've checked and she's not eggbound, and not an internal layer. She's been wormed. She's happy and healthy and has lovely plumage (she reminds me of an emu). She just doesn't feel like laying, thank you.

I thought she might have a secret nest, so I locked the whole flock into the inner pen for 4 days so they couldn't hide anything. But nope, Amelia remains a woman of mystery.

Normal, or did I get a dud?

 

[pgpoultry]

It seems to me that if there is a 'y' in the day or the wind speed is greater than 1mph, that a hen will stop laying. To be serious, though, all of my hens go through phases of not laying for no apparent reason (winter 'shut down' due to short daylight hours and old age being valid reasons).
One hen of mine (not a NN) didn't lay for 18 months due, I think, to her being too fat. A change in her status from alpha hen (and therefore not eating enough for 3) has slimmed her down and she has being laying 5 days out of 7 for the last few months.
The causes of stopping laying are many.....too fat, too thin, worms, broody, weather,ovarian dysfunction, shock, change of environment etc etc and often absolutely NO apparent cause. This is no more common (and no rarer) in NNs than any other type of hen.
Exclude all treatable causes and be patient is my strategy.
Good Luck.