Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[flower]

It's not a pattern, it's a gene that stops red/gold pigments from being produced. It does nothing to patterns by itself.

ALL chickens are either gold or silver (or can be both in case of roosters. Hens can only be either gold or silver). Even solid colored chickens are gold or silver. A solid white or solid black are gold or silver even if you can't tell which one they are by looking at them. But often, clean crisp white are silver as it helps remove any remaining brown/gold pigments but a solid crisp gold white is possible with selection, though.

Thank you Kev. I now understand a bit more. I think some day the light will turn on .

 

[Kev]

Thank you Kev. I now understand a bit more. I think some day the light will turn on .

Haha. It takes a while for everybody even me.

Let's say you had a line of brown birds. They are all pure for gold. Then you cross a black bird with one of those brown birds. If you get black birds with white leaking on them or get silver colored birds in the second generation then you know the black bird used in the first cross was silver even though you can't see any hint of silver or white on it.

It's similar to how a white bird can be a barred bird even though you cannot see the barring at all. Just because you cannot see it does not mean it's not genetically present in the bird- same thing, if you cross a white to colored birds that never had barring and suddenly see barring in the cross birds then you know the white bird had barring. Solid black makes all the feathers black so you cannot see white(silver) or gold coloring.

 

[Kassaundra]

draye, here is one I am almost certain is Mensa's

 

[Kassaundra]

This one I'm pretty sure about too, he dark skin comes from Jaxom my roo.

 

[draye]

draye, here is one I am almost certain is Mensa's

This one I'm pretty sure about too, he dark skin comes from Jaxom my roo.

Both are beautiful. That looks almost Columbian especially the pullet. She has a little bonnet on too.

 

[draye]

draye, here is one I am almost certain is Mensa's

This one I'm pretty sure about too, he dark skin comes from Jaxom my roo.

Both are beautiful. That looks almost Columbian especially the pullet. She has a little bonnet on too.

 

[Kassaundra]

Yes I was sad to see Mensa's dark skinned chick turn out to be a boy. I like the bonnets too.

 

[Flowerbh]

Ok, I am coming to this thread because the smartest people are on here!!! You all are great and know your stuff. So my question is: I would like to get some beautiful turquoise eggs. What color egg genes do I need to mix together?

I am growing out some blue egg layers....I have some Crested Cream Legbar X white leghorn crosses and some Lavender Ameraucana X white leghorn crosses. I also have some green, green/blue, pinkish, white and assorted different shades of brown egg layers. My roosters are a Non Naked Neck (not sure what else to call him) green/blue egg gene (from DDD) and a Blue Laced Red Wyandotte. He was hatched from a light pinkish/brown egg. I have heard turquoise comes from green/blue egg layer X pinkish eggs. Is that true? Or do I need the straight blue with the pinkish? Any help would be appreciated!

And, Kassaundra, your chicks are beautiful as usual!

 

[aoxa]

Only took me six weeks to take pictures of the white NNs. Now I know their genders (for sure). 3 boys, 2 girls.

One of the boys, with the silkies


One of the girls.

 

[Kev]

Those whites look so angelic, all soft and almost transculent.

Ok, I am coming to this thread because the smartest people are on here!!! You all are great and know your stuff. So my question is: I would like to get some beautiful turquoise eggs. What color egg genes do I need to mix together?

I am growing out some blue egg layers....I have some Crested Cream Legbar X white leghorn crosses and some Lavender Ameraucana X white leghorn crosses. I also have some green, green/blue, pinkish, white and assorted different shades of brown egg layers. My roosters are a Non Naked Neck (not sure what else to call him) green/blue egg gene (from DDD) and a Blue Laced Red Wyandotte. He was hatched from a light pinkish/brown egg. I have heard turquoise comes from green/blue egg layer X pinkish eggs. Is that true? Or do I need the straight blue with the pinkish? Any help would be appreciated!

And, Kassaundra, your chicks are beautiful as usual

There are only two egg shell colors- white and blue. All the tan/brown colors are pigments produced over the eggshell.

Blue is supposedly only the blue eggshell gene with none of the tan/brown genes.

There are quite a lot of separate genes for tinted, tan and brown colors. This is why tint is so hard to get rid of after a single crossing with a brown egg layer. Also why it can be hard to get back to blue with no green tint after crossing with brown layers.

Shades of green and olive are blue combined with various genes for tint/brown.

AFAIK there is no specific gene for 'pinkish' eggs, it is a variation of the tinted egg color. I have no idea if pinkish plus blue= turquoise. However due to above, would suspect this would produce a lot of greenish layers because blue to pinkish is genetically a cross of blue to tinted.

Back when I had araucanas, they did lay bluish and "turquoise-ish"(blue with slight green tint- is that your definition also?). From what I can remember.. crossing them with tinted(pale tan) layers produced mostly green layers.

The best turquoise-ish eggs were from birds via egg trade.. was supposed to be NN(as in the breed) but chicks came out way obviously all mixed up- crests, leg feathers, all sorts of colors combs etc. I don't know why their eggs were consistently pale blue, blue or turquoise- none laid green... especially the birds are so obviously mixed but whatever the reason their eggs were beautiful.