Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[aoxa]

Those whites look so angelic, all soft and almost transculent.


There are only two egg shell colors- white and blue. All the tan/brown colors are pigments produced over the eggshell.

Blue is supposedly only the blue eggshell gene with none of the tan/brown genes.

There are quite a lot of separate genes for tinted, tan and brown colors. This is why tint is so hard to get rid of after a single crossing with a brown egg layer. Also why it can be hard to get back to blue with no green tint after crossing with brown layers.

Shades of green and olive are blue combined with various genes for tint/brown.

AFAIK there is no specific gene for 'pinkish' eggs, it is a variation of the tinted egg color. I have no idea if pinkish plus blue= turquoise. However due to above, would suspect this would produce a lot of greenish layers because blue to pinkish is genetically a cross of blue to tinted.

Back when I had araucanas, they did lay bluish and "turquoise-ish"(blue with slight green tint- is that your definition also?). From what I can remember.. crossing them with tinted(pale tan) layers produced mostly green layers.

The best turquoise-ish eggs were from birds via egg trade.. was supposed to be NN(as in the breed) but chicks came out way obviously all mixed up- crests, leg feathers, all sorts of colors combs etc. I don't know why their eggs were consistently pale blue, blue or turquoise- none laid green... especially the birds are so obviously mixed but whatever the reason their eggs were beautiful.

Thank you I didn't think I'd like the white as much as I do. They are very delicate looking, and have leghorn in them (their father) so that should beef up their egg size and quantity.

Talking about egg colours... One of my NNs lays a turquoise egg. Not green.. Comparable to my pure Ameraucana, which is confusing to me, as she was fathered by a Barred Plymouth Rock, and came out of a green egg.. How does that work?

 

[azer]

They are so beautiful! Will u be keeping the rooster???

Only took me six weeks to take pictures of the white NNs. Now I know their genders (for sure). 3 boys, 2 girls. One of the boys, with the silkies One of the girls.

 

[Georgia Boy 1970]

Kassaundra,Gorgeous birds.What will you be doing with the dark skinned rooster?

 

[aoxa]

They are so beautiful! Will u be keeping the rooster???

I'll keep A rooster. I'll let all three grow to maturity and pick the most laid back one.

 

[Georgia Boy 1970]

Only took me six weeks to take pictures of the white NNs. Now I know their genders (for sure). 3 boys, 2 girls.

One of the boys, with the silkies


One of the girls.

Love the white naked necks.Have one white nn pullet.Would like to have a white naked neck frizzle.I have a frizzle rooster that is 1/2 frizzle polish(tolblunt/gold laced split) and 1/2 blue cuckoo olive egger.He is laced and cuckoo and blue.His full sister is a solid white frizzle.So with all that said.I am hoping by pairing the two that I will have some white frizzle naked necks.

 

[Kev]

Thank you I didn't think I'd like the white as much as I do. They are very delicate looking, and have leghorn in them (their father) so that should beef up their egg size and quantity.

Talking about egg colours... One of my NNs lays a turquoise egg. Not green.. Comparable to my pure Ameraucana, which is confusing to me, as she was fathered by a Barred Plymouth Rock, and came out of a green egg.. How does that work

I don't know how that worked in your girl. haven't read very much on eggshell color... Flowerbh where did you read that info on egg colors? I'd like to go over and read it.. got me curious now.

On paper it says green is result of blue eggshell with brown tint laid on top. Most of my crosses(araucana to various breeds) showed that was largely true. Second generation on mixes tended to lay a wider range of colors but blue and turquoise always were 'uncommon' with greens and olives dominating. And there's always the puzzlers like the group via egg trade mentioned in last reply.. that group laid great colors in the blue/turquoise range. Still have one hen descended from that group, she lays a pale blue egg even though her father was not from 'that group'.

BY the way crossing with leghorns- some lines have a gene that actively represses eggshell color. Introducing blue into this line will give blues strongly on the pale/very pale side. This gene is used to give sparkling white eggshells for the store shelves and apparently helps quite a lot in removing all hint of tinted coloring.

 

[Kassaundra]

Kassaundra,Gorgeous birds.What will you be doing with the dark skinned rooster?

The young roos are all headed to freezer camp, the only exception to that will be Buzz, the Sc carrier, not sure yet about him I didn't do anything permenant to him (the big C) Jaxom I am keeping my adult dark skinned if that is the one you were asking about.

 

[Georgia Boy 1970]

The young roos are all headed to freezer camp, the only exception to that will be Buzz, the Sc carrier, not sure yet about him I didn't do anything permenant to him (the big C) Jaxom I am keeping my adult dark skinned if that is the one you were asking about.

Too good looking of a rooster to eat.But that is coming from someone who has too many roosters.

 

[Kev]

Love the white naked necks.Have one white nn pullet.Would like to have a white naked neck frizzle.I have a frizzle rooster that is 1/2 frizzle polish(tolblunt/gold laced split) and 1/2 blue cuckoo olive egger.He is laced and cuckoo and blue.His full sister is a solid white frizzle.So with all that said.I am hoping by pairing the two that I will have some white frizzle naked necks.

for cleaner whites it is best to use silver birds. Especially if the white is the dominant white form- this form covers black pigments very well but is very poor at covering brown/red/gold pigments.

Blue, mottle and barring is also excellent in whites but is not necessary. Do not want barring or mottle if you want blue or green legs on whites.

would like to see laced and cuckoo plus blue roo.

 

[Kassaundra]

Too good looking of a rooster to eat.But that is coming from someone who has too many roosters.

Which roo are you talking about?



I have very limited space and live in town, I have to be very roo judicious and can't let my head be turned to much by pretty feathers! lol