Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Kev]

Dipsy, How is the black in your FM roos? This chick looks real dark but often times the roos still get quite a bit of red in them. For me it seems to be a numbers game you have to grow up a lot to see the few that keep the black and keep breeding for that. It seems most people, even cemani breeders, tend to show pics of females who tend to stay pretty black.

Good catch, lol... it takes a picture of cock bird over a year old to impress me(and the back ground is not neon colors or um "artistically colored". Just laugh whenever I see someone saying to cross a black skin over other birds with the implication it's "that easy"....

Lisa- cute chicks and great name.

 

[Kev]

Glad to seee you are making progress on this project and getting ready to unleash the F2's such a fascinating project cant believe more of this is not going on.

HEY Georgia Boy- missed your post and cannot find it again... wanted to say real good to see your birds again and glad the project is continuing plus wonderful colors being thrown in too! Yeah!

 

[hellbender]

you just got an Ovcharka?!?! for kicks and giggles, ha..

I had an Anatolian(Kangal).

Kicks and giggles?? No, not really. I'm very familiar with the breed as well as the Anatolians. I used to show dogs ..AKC, UKC, FIC, and Rare Breeds...American Rare Breed Association, located in Maryland..Just outside of DC.

The pup is 9 months old and is coming from a past client from Conroe Texas, just a little north of Houston. Very high caliber dog. I wouldn't even consider having one if I lived in town or even the burbs!

 

[Kev]

Kicks and giggles?? No, not really. I'm very familiar with the breed as well as the Anatolians. I used to show dogs ..AKC, UKC, FIC, and Rare Breeds...American Rare Breed Association, located in Maryland..Just outside of DC.

The pup is 9 months old and is coming from a past client from Conroe Texas, just a little north of Houston. Very high caliber dog. I wouldn't even consider having one if I lived in town or even the burbs!

Right- the last part is why I was pretty surprised and threw in kick/giggles.. way high caliber dog, higher than Anatolians from what people tell me. BTW- do you know the typical level of prey drive in this breed? I was interested, but with some history of non LGD in the breed veered me away from them.

I saw on the tube some city guy got one, a male.... he could not manage it.. dog was dragging him around trying to get at cars, people, anything. People like him with powerful objects or animals worry me.

 

[hellbender]

Right- the last part is why I was pretty surprised and threw in kick/giggles.. way high caliber dog, higher than Anatolians from what people tell me. BTW- do you know the typical level of prey drive in this breed? I was interested, but with some history of non LGD in the breed veered me away from them.

I saw on the tube some city guy got one, a male.... he could not manage it.. dog was dragging him around trying to get at cars, people, anything. People like him with powerful objects or animals worry me.

I remember seeing a 'Special' about dog attacks with that footage included. Little guy with a moustache. That was a disaster waiting to happen. Just too much dog for some people.

With my background and the fact that we have a very rural (understatement) farm, she will be fine here.

EDIT: Prey Drive. Much depends upon the strain but generally speaking, the prey drive is ...extreme.

 

[mara1]

Quote: Hell bender would you know of any breeders that would have sarplaninac puppies in the michigan/ohio area?

 

[Kev]

Ahhh was not questioning your ability(sorry if I misread).. such a rare(and big in every way) dog and had previously looked into them as LGD option so that got my attention.

Thanks for the answer as to prey drive- what I suspected.

 

[Vamvakas]

My dad has a dog and I am not big into dogs as I am into chickens, but she's a Beagle great hunting dog for rabbits and small fur animals. They suck at protecting chickens from hawks and birds. But will bark if there's a fox/mammals. I think male hunting Beagles are better hunters then the females but the males tend to kill chickens lol while females don't kill them.

Edit: Another great think about hunting beagles is that they hate being indoors and prefer being outside in all seasons. This may sound bad in the winter but they don't mind cold weather if you have a house for them. If you try to keep them indoors they bark and make a mess so I just have the beagle in a dog house outside all winter with warm cloths and she loves it. Plus old school Europeans don't like dogs in there house.

 

[hellbender]

Hell bender would you know of any breeders that would have sarplaninac puppies in the michigan/ohio area?

I am very familiar with the Sars and like them but I don't know any breeders of them anywhere. You might contact the American Rare breed Assn. http://arba.memberlodge.org/

My dad has a dog and I am not big into dogs as I am into chickens, but she's a Beagle great hunting dog for rabbits and small fur animals. They suck at protecting chickens from hawks and birds. But will bark if there's a fox/mammals. I think male hunting Beagles are better hunters then the females but the males tend to kill chickens lol while females don't kill them.

Edit: Another great think about hunting beagles is that they hate being indoors and prefer being outside in all seasons. This may sound bad in the winter but they don't mind cold weather if you have a house for them. If you try to keep them indoors they bark and make a mess so I just have the beagle in a dog house outside all winter with warm cloths and she loves it. Plus old school Europeans don't like dogs in there house.

Beagles are great little dogs and very tough. I have friends who keep them in small packs, living together in one house. They keep the long-legged dogs and hunt snowshoe hares with them in the higher elevations. One guy crosses them with walker hounds for snowshoe hares and keeps a small group exclusively for bobcat hunting.

Ahhh was not questioning your ability(sorry if I misread).. such a rare(and big in every way) dog and had previously looked into them as LGD option so that got my attention.

Thanks for the answer as to prey drive- what I suspected.

My son saw several examples of the breed in Afghanistan and remembered them (how could they be forgotten) from our exhibition days. I bought the young gal principally at his request but actually, I'd been thinking about them for a while.

 

[hellbender]

This is typical of the CO's sweet temperament and why your farm could be carried away at night...

Or...NOT!!!