Naked Neck/Turken Thread

So for showgirls to make the generations get the silkie feathers do i croos the nn with my silkie for 1st gen then do i croos the babies together or the babies back to silkies
 
So for showgirls to make the generations get the silkie feathers do i croos the nn with my silkie for 1st gen then do i croos the babies together or the babies back to silkies
It's recommended that you cross a NN hen with a silkie roo for the first generation. Then the "showgirl" with the silkie for the existing generations. Here's a decent breeding outline that I've been looking at trying to figure out the why's on; http://www.browneggblueegg.com/Article/BreedShowgirls.html I'm still trying to figure out why it's recommended the nn is the hen and the silkie is the roo, but it's good info...lol
 
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It's recommended that you cross a NN hen with a silkie roo for the first generation. Then the "showgirl" with the silkie for the existing generations. Here's a decent breeding outline that I've been looking at trying to figure out the why's on; http://www.browneggblueegg.com/Article/BreedShowgirls.html I'm still trying to figure out why it's recommended the nn is the hen and the silkie is the roo, but it's good info...lol

It's due to a mistaken notion that the black skin is sex linked gene. It is not.. that page has been up for ages with no correction.

Bottom line it does not matter which way for the first cross. NN roo, silkie hen works just as fine.

The only thing to consider is if the NN has either clear yellow or white legs, it has the Id gene which IS sex linked and it "messes up" the expression of the black skin gene.

If the NN has either blue or green legs then it doesn't have the Id gene- and all chicks would turn out black skinned, regardless of the sex of the parent breeds.
 
As for breeding showgirls... I've made them from scratch(and I'm actually the person who coined the name many years ago..)

On paper, getting a NN, sillky feathered bird is relatively easy.

The difficult part is getting them to look as nice as the show bred silkies.. especially if starting with hatchery stock silkies. They will look funny and cute but they will have all kinds of things like long narrow bodies, way long legs, the crests and leg feathering will be very variable in quality.

A common thing is the first generation silky featherd birds feel rough and prickly when handled despite having silky feathers. Completely soft feathers comes with generations of breeding back to silkies.

Getting a very good quality silkie from show bred lines really cuts down on the number of generations before seeing birds with the rounder bodies with shorter bodies and totally soft fuzz.
 

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