Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Kev]

So that should also come from my dark brown
Hens and columbian rooster?

if the roo is pure for columbian then all will be columbian pattern.

The other problem is what base is he under the columbian... wheaten is very common in large breeds it is almost the default guess for any big chicken that is not black.

If he is wheaten but not pure for columbian, you might get wheaten duckwing roosters but the hens can be hard to identify between wheaten vs columbian.

dark brown is the most recessive base, so if you actually get wheaten duckwings from the above cross, use them to finally get darkbrowns in the third generation.

 

[Phill98]

if the roo is pure for columbian then all will be columbian pattern.

The other problem is what base is he under the columbian...  wheaten is very common in large breeds it is almost the default guess for any big chicken that is not black.

If he is wheaten but not pure for columbian, you might get wheaten duckwing roosters but the hens can be hard to identify between wheaten vs columbian. 

dark brown is the most recessive base, so if you actually get wheaten duckwings from the above cross, use them to finally get darkbrowns in the third generation.

Got it!

 

[Hholly]

I have an Easter Egger cockerel that looks a lot like this but more red than golden! I've never been able to figure out if he's supposed to have a tail, but other chickens simply pecked out the feathers, or if he's tail-less. He's a super sweet mama's boy named "Chewy" (after Chewbacca, whom he looked like as a chick). I don't want to breed him because he's got crooked inner toes, but he's sort of become a family pet because he's always been so affectionate with all of us.



As a chick:

Okay...maybe he looked more like an Ewok than Chewbacca, but the name stuck.

OMG! That is the cutest chick ever!

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Hmmm....good point. My Biels will be a year old on March 1st. I still have two cockerels from that Biel and one pullet, but they're all crosses with Australorps. I had thought of crossing my Biel boys back to the Aussie pullet to potentially improve heat tolerance in the breed, but she's not even laying yet. Maybe I'll start by crossing Hansel (my big Biel) over the same gals I was going to mate with Shiloh...minus the Biel girls since they're not heat tolerant either. That would put Hansel over three White Rocks, two large Dorking mixes, and two or three NN girls. That might work.....If I can convince all existing tenants that a change in venue is a good thing.

If you're smelling smoke right now it's my brain chugging away as I rearrange my housing mentally and reconfigure my breeding plans.

Girl, you're making me tired just reading your posts. The scary thing is that I have about 12 different potential plans for breeding... Go, Soul Sista!

OMG! That is the cutest chick ever!

Gotta agree there!

 

[DesertChic]

he is adorable! nice colouring too. sweet as chick. I don't see crooked toes when he was a chick. what happened to his toes?

I think he is supposed to have a tail. if you compare his saddle feathers to my boy's you will notice they are different. my julio has much longer feathers.

I purchased him and the rest of my EE flock as eggs from a breeder of smooth and frizzled EEs. About half of the hatchlings developed crooked inner toes, so I'm pretty sure it's genetic. Hints of the problem began to appear around 2 weeks, but it wasn't really noticeable until 4 weeks of age. I'm hoping to breed it out of my EE by crossing the girls with my Ameraucana mix, Copper.

 

[DesertChic]

Improve heat tolerance in what- biels? I'm curious... what kind of body do the aussies have- more meat or layer? I've never had aussies so I'm wondering if part of their heat tolerance is due to leaning towards a layer type... if that's the case, this would seem to be basically breeding for a layer type biels via the heat tolerance selection.

Australorps are definitely egg layers, both in shape and in function. How any black chicken can manage to stay cool in the AZ sun in summer is beyond my comprehension. I only got one pullet out of the Biel/Aussie cross. She looks a lot like my Barred Rocks but with the Bielefelder posture. I'm waiting to see if she develops any of the mass I've seen in my Biel girls of if she stays lean and fluffy like my Aussies. And I'm definitely curious about her heat tolerance. I plan to breed her back to my Biel boys when she's a bit older.

And

 

[DesertChic]

Girl, you're making me tired just reading your posts. The scary thing is that I have about 12 different potential plans for breeding... Go, Soul Sista!
Gotta agree there!

Only 12? You'd better hurry and catch up to me. I have over 12 just for my NN project, and at least another four for my EE flock and half a dozen for my Biels.

 

[chickengr]

I purchased him and the rest of my EE flock as eggs from a breeder of smooth and frizzled EEs. About half of the hatchlings developed crooked inner toes, so I'm pretty sure it's genetic. Hints of the problem began to appear around 2 weeks, but it wasn't really noticeable until 4 weeks of age. I'm hoping to breed it out of my EE by crossing the girls with my Ameraucana mix, Copper.

too much inbreeding causes crooked toes. it seems your breeder didn't care about bringing fresh blood into his flock.

 

[chickengr]

It is a common color pattern when a mixed color flock is allowed to breed freely for more than a few generations. Nothing to do with a particular breed or.... for example, if there is a starting flock of silver lace wyandotte, a red duckwing something, a sold black something and you let them freely breed for several generations, there will be some birds colored like her. Colloncas are basically village chickens with very little if any "color breeding".

At the best guess, that hen is a silver darkbrown with different genes added- maybe charcoal/hackle black etc she looks almost Quail pattern

this breeder has no room for colour breeding, so all the colours breed freely.

 

[Phill98]

I purchased him and the rest of my EE flock as eggs from a breeder of smooth and frizzled EEs. About half of the hatchlings developed crooked inner toes, so I'm pretty sure it's genetic. Hints of the problem began to appear around 2 weeks, but it wasn't really noticeable until 4 weeks of age. I'm hoping to breed it out of my EE by crossing the girls with my Ameraucana mix, Copper.

I love your roosters! This blue tails are gorgeous! I wonder how is that color called. I have a question about that space where he is. Is tgat a breeding pen or coop or what? I noticed similar in your previous pics and liked it. Can you give us a better pic or two?