Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Kev]

so I would need a lavender chicken to start with? I cannot find it here

Very sorry to say yes... have to bring in a bird with lavender gene.

 

[Kev]

KEV beautiful birds, what is the source of the pictures ? Were they all yours or did you import the photos for demonstration.

I had some porcelain d'Uccles and they were very pretty but very flighty. Even I want more of this color just because you posted them. drat

DesertChic be sure to get those Lavender Australorp hatching eggs so we can share them some day !

did you accuse me of having non-NN??

Kidding aside, almost all of my flock is NN.. the only non NN breeds I have are barbezieux and oshamo. All pics were from google search.

Maybe someone will introduce lavender into the Aloha chickens.. that will result in some porcelains.

 

[Kev]

Dang it, Kev! You did it again! Now I want to get some lavender chickens for my breeding adventures.

I did find some Lavender Australorp hatching eggs online. Hmm......

Sorry... lol

there are lavender australorps? did not know that. Should be a good way to introduce lavender yet maintain dual purpose type..

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

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- Ant Farm

 

[Kassaundra]

Lavender is a single and recessive mutant gene. It dilutes both black and red/gold pigments. It breeds true, not like the blue with its black/blue/splash genetics.. lavender bred with lavender breeds all lavenders.

For solid lavender like my chicks, you need a solid black chicken then add lavender.

There are too many names for lavender on other color patterns.. Isabel(usually a lavender on a buff bird), Isabella, porcelain, etc.. I don't know the Greek name for this gene/color... will try showing more pictures

Mille fleur d'Uccle(no lavender) Porcelain d'Uccles(exact same color except lavender is added) See how the lavender dilutes all colors to a soft pastel shade:

mille:


porcelain- exactly the same color and pattern as above but with lavender "added":


Isabella brahma- it is partridge with lavender added:


Isabel/isabella leghorn- brown or red duckwing pattern:


Isabel brahma- this one is a buff brahma plus lavender:

I've never been a fan of lavender chickens, but those 3 middle ones and especially the hen look like opals!!!! They are aweome, just imagine that hen w/ a lovely black naked neck

oh and shaved legs of course.

 

[nchvac]

I have what I assume is a black naked neck rooster- stock from Murray McMurray. I am wondering if he can be used to produce sex- linked chicks with my RIR hens. I also have White Leghorn and Rhode-bar hens and I would like to know what to expect with egg laying, meat production and coloring as well as what to expect from the NN gene as far as how that will pass to the offspring. As far as I can tell he has the dominant gene because while he does have some pin feathers randomly located on his neck he has no patches at all and what feathers are there are evidently picked off - I wonder if feathers irritate them in the neck area and maybe that is why they pick them or allow the other chickens to pick them.

 

[DesertChic]

Sorry... lol

there are lavender australorps? did not know that. Should be a good way to introduce lavender yet maintain dual purpose type..

My thoughts exactly. Now if I can only buy another 10 acres or so......

 

[DesertChic]

Cohabitating roosters are NOT on the table here in my yard. (The whole reason Apoc is on his own is that when he was living with Tank, Tank was beating him up regularly, and it was getting worse. So I tried...)

I'll try again with these new chicks...

- Ant Farm

It's a definite challenge, even with the best tempered boys. I'm noticing that now that it's spring my normally peaceful, co-existing boys are fighting like crazy over who gets the girls. Along with the remainder of the extra cockerels from my last hatch I'm now contemplating culling some of my other roosters...just to restore a bit more calm and quiet around here. I still feel guilty over every cull, but it's always such a relief afterward to have one less boy causing trouble, one less crower at 3:00 A.M., one less rapist in the yard....

 

[Kassaundra]

I have what I assume is a black naked neck rooster- stock from Murray McMurray. I am wondering if he can be used to produce sex- linked chicks with my RIR hens. I also have White Leghorn and Rhode-bar hens and I would like to know what to expect with egg laying, meat production and coloring as well as what to expect from the NN gene as far as how that will pass to the offspring. As far as I can tell he has the dominant gene because while he does have some pin feathers randomly located on his neck he has no patches at all and what feathers are there are evidently picked off - I wonder if feathers irritate them in the neck area and maybe that is why they pick them or allow the other chickens to pick them.

Naked neck gene is passed w/o difference in male or female, it is not sex linked in any way. If you have Fm in the flock (black or dark skin) it is also not sex linked and passes w/o difference to both male and female offspring, however it is "modified" for lack of a better term in males in that at sexual maturity many lose the dark fm an become more "muleberry" or dramatically lighter.

After rereading your post I see you may have been referring to black feathers not skin, in that case ignore the fm comments.

 

[chickengr]

Ideally, Cream Legbars should be easily auto sexed. If you hatch from yours, you should subsequently select for good auto sexing characteristics in the babies - at least the best you can get among your results. It's an important/key feature of the breed, but seems to be really easily lost. I have pullets that had fantastic auto sexing as chicks, and their chicks are also great. The other pullet (who has since died of Mareks) was not as clear, and sure enough, neither were her babies. She was a great layer, and a sweet bird, and her chicks are the most friendly. So they are going into hybrid/mix projects, rather than into the CL breeding group.

Paula (since deceased) began laying first at 25 weeks, the others were several weeks after that. So I almost died of shock when my naked Necks started laying at 20 weeks - I didn't even have nest boxes in there! Not sure how universal that is, but pretty sure they don't start laying early. Once laying, though, they've been very consistent and productive - I hope you have a line/strain like that.

I feel sorry for Apoc, REALLY hate to keep him locked up like that, but he makes a real pest of himself, and when I let him out into a paddock (I've tried that), he escapes very readily and makes a lot of trouble. He will need to be on his own until he gets his girls - he has a LONG wait (about 5 months).

- Ant Farm

I have a trouble roo as well but somehow I managed to put him back in the big run with a red sex roo and orpington cockerel. the 2 roos fight from time to time but it is not as bad.

my NNs started to lay at 21-23 weeks but they probably are some hybrid mix. I don't know if true transylvanian neck lays so early. I might get one so if I do I will let you know (I have been promised to get a black NN that I want so much but as greek people are not good at keeping promises I will believe it when I get it).