Naked Neck/Turken Thread

I tried using a 2" piece of industrial grade Velcro on my rooster. It worked as far as the crowing but it made a soar at the base od the neck on the top of his neck where it adjoins the body. I bandaged that up and it did heal leaving scar tissue in the area. I cut 1/2" off of the colar and now it only muffles a little as it rides up his neck towards his head and as you say it does not do it's job. How are you getting it to stay down low without causing soars? I am kind of sensitive to this and the comfort of the collar is why I chose NN chickens because I don't like the way the colars wear on feathers- looks to me like it could cause some irritation riding on feathers.

I have not done anything special to avoid sores because none have actually happened for me! I am using only 1" wide and keep it soft side to the skin. I also do not place my collars as low as it sounds like you do, there is no friction between the skin and collar because it can't move at all. I'm also making it a point to regularly remove and check the things since I'm trying to learn as much about this as possible to share with other chicken keepers, which may help. I would look at why the sore happened, and try to go from there. Is it friction, moisture held to the skin, both? My immediate thought was diaper rash cream.

Yeah, one thing that worries me about collars on feathered necks, is I have heard tell of ingrown feathers. Plain feather wear doesn't bother me at all, but quills, blood feather breaks, ingrown feathers.. that is all painful, painful, painful and it needs to be driven home that collars aren't meant to be set it and forget it. People gotta be prepared to deal with molting time and giving the bird no-collar breaks, as well as having to re-apply the collar. It is something I don't see talked about enough in context! Of course, naked necks eliminate that issue and are also super super easy to monitor... maybe they will suddenly look less ugly to people who want a roo ;)


when I mentioned torturing I was not talking about your roos and collars. every day at 3 pm I go out to try to make my chickens calm down as my neighbor goes to sleep and already warned me she wants silence. as this is officially time for the afternoon nap she can call police and I must torture my chickens and my dogs if I don't want to get into trouble. and my hens started to lay around this time
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Understandable! I worry about my neighbors too. Everyone in the neighborhood seems to love my birds EXCEPT the only neighbor that actually butts up against our yard. She hated us before the birds even showed up... we're apparently weirdos that need God LMAO. She knows better than to complain, though. Her dogs are probably the loudest thing on the block when they set up a ruckus.

This reminds me: People who walk/jog by the house often come to the fence to watch the chickens. I had one well intentioned but uppity individual come to my door to confront me about the naked necks. She thought I had plucked their heads or that they must be ill, bless her soul, and was very upset with me about letting my birds get in to such a state. I'm basically a shy anxious hermit, so opening the door to an angry, sweaty stranger telling me something was wrong with my chickens and I should be ashamed was not much fun.

I use sand and love it, dries the poop out quickly, easy to rake the dry poop, sand stays dry.

I tried crow collars once, it was hilarious, my boys objected strenuous, as soon as I put it on they would lay down and act paralyzed or like one of those chicken hypnosis. As soon as I would take it off the would stand and act normal, then down and fake "paralyzed" as soon as it went back on. It wasn't hurting them, ................. well except their pride apparently.

Seconding sand as awesome! As long as you aren't in a super wet place/your run isn't where water stands. Sand is butts when it is wet and can't get properly dried.

My boys both decided to moonwalk like they could back out of the collar, ramming their butts in to the run walls (Werewolf broke one of his pretty feathers, boo) but they didn't do the "slowly sinks to ground given over to death" reaction! When I first diapered my oldest house chicken, though, it sounds just like what you're describing:

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Making deviled eggs while listening to my chicks hatching from eggs, wondering if that means I need medication?
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Also listening to FBI Files on tv. They mentioned "tri lobal fiber found" and I instantly knew it was carpet fiber. If I'm not a csi tech and know this does this mean I watch to many forensic crime shows?
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LOL! You're my kind of crazy!
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Congratulations on you pipping! Looking forward to baby pics.
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Every rooster I have put one on has backed up and went crazy acting- the colars seem to disorient them. Even if I take it off and put it right back on for adjustment they get disoriented for a couple of minutes. Personally I would rather them lay down until they get their wits about them. I would imagine if they were trying to get it off they would rub it against something like a tree or try to claw it off- nope, just disoriented. They get used it and then all of a sudden go back to normal, if roosters are normal.
 
I have not done anything special to avoid sores because none have actually happened for me! I am using only 1" wide and keep it soft side to the skin. I also do not place my collars as low as it sounds like you do, there is no friction between the skin and collar because it can't move at all. I'm also making it a point to regularly remove and check the things since I'm trying to learn as much about this as possible to share with other chicken keepers, which may help. I would look at why the sore happened, and try to go from there. Is it friction, moisture held to the skin, both? My immediate thought was diaper rash cream.

Yeah, one thing that worries me about collars on feathered necks, is I have heard tell of ingrown feathers. Plain feather wear doesn't bother me at all, but quills, blood feather breaks, ingrown feathers.. that is all painful, painful, painful and it needs to be driven home that collars aren't meant to be set it and forget it. People gotta be prepared to deal with molting time and giving the bird no-collar breaks, as well as having to re-apply the collar. It is something I don't see talked about enough in context! Of course, naked necks eliminate that issue and are also super super easy to monitor... maybe they will suddenly look less ugly to people who want a roo ;)



Understandable! I worry about my neighbors too. Everyone in the neighborhood seems to love my birds EXCEPT the only neighbor that actually butts up against our yard. She hated us before the birds even showed up... we're apparently weirdos that need God LMAO. She knows better than to complain, though. Her dogs are probably the loudest thing on the block when they set up a ruckus.

This reminds me: People who walk/jog by the house often come to the fence to watch the chickens. I had one well intentioned but uppity individual come to my door to confront me about the naked necks. She thought I had plucked their heads or that they must be ill, bless her soul, and was very upset with me about letting my birds get in to such a state. I'm basically a shy anxious hermit, so opening the door to an angry, sweaty stranger telling me something was wrong with my chickens and I should be ashamed was not much fun.


Seconding sand as awesome! As long as you aren't in a super wet place/your run isn't where water stands. Sand is butts when it is wet and can't get properly dried.

My boys both decided to moonwalk like they could back out of the collar, ramming their butts in to the run walls (Werewolf broke one of his pretty feathers, boo) but they didn't do the "slowly sinks to ground given over to death" reaction! When I first diapered my oldest house chicken, though, it sounds just like what you're describing:

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When you say you "keep the soft side to the skin", what are you referring to? The backing of the Velcro that I have is not soft, and I don't know if I have ever seen soft Velcro backing.
 
When you say you "keep the soft side to the skin", what are you referring to? The backing of the Velcro that I have is not soft, and I don't know if I have ever seen soft Velcro backing.

By soft I mean the fuzzy side that the tooth side hooks to. The stuff on the bottom, as opposed to the top:
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I think the technical term might be the "female side." The stuff I use, it feels pretty soft. Like curly mini carpeting. It could easily cause friction troubles if allowed to slide, but in place it is easy on their skin.
 
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I've been "birthing" chickens this afternoon. One hatched w/o help the rest required help (my incubator has issues) Every egg I helped is still alive, but I have 2 I am concerned about and several still "on the half shell" Taking a break to see if they can make it the rest of the way.
 
Making deviled eggs while listening to my chicks hatching from eggs, wondering if that means I need medication?
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Also listening to FBI Files on tv. They mentioned "tri lobal fiber found" and I instantly knew it was carpet fiber. If I'm not a csi tech and know this does this mean I watch to many forensic crime shows?
caf.gif

I don't have cable/TV (though I do watch Netflix etc.), and when I go out of town and stay in a hotel, I flip through the channels and am very quickly reminded of why I don't bother with having cable. EXCEPT when they have Forensics files marathons (which they do a lot). Then I sit there mesmerized for hours. I think it's kind of like the modern Agatha Christie...
When I first diapered my oldest house chicken, though, it sounds just like what you're describing:

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This is hysterical. I tried to put my cat in a harness once, with the idea of walking her. She instantly became a dead weight - it was pretty funny.

I've been "birthing" chickens this afternoon. One hatched w/o help the rest required help (my incubator has issues) Every egg I helped is still alive, but I have 2 I am concerned about and several still "on the half shell" Taking a break to see if they can make it the rest of the way.
Good luck!

Speaking of rooster pride, Severus Snape (the NN flock rooster) is very big, very dignified, and a fairly domineering rooster (though not particularly abusive). He is IN CHARGE. He is THE BOSS. Snape is HE WHO MUST BE OBEYED.

But I've been watching, and then today cinched it - the hatchery New Hampshire, Polly, is a manipulative little thing and has him wrapped around her finger (toes?). She's one of his favorites, but likes to randomly play hard to get for some reason (driving him to total distraction). Today, there was an unholy ruckus in the coop because someone else was in HER nest box, and SHE wanted to use that nest box. She was standing on a roost next to the nest box yelling her little head off (I happened to catch this at the beginning when checking for eggs). Then she escalated, sounding like she was in major distress (she was NOT).

I've never seen Snape run so fast to get in the coop and up the ramp - I could almost hear him: "What is it, Baby? You alright? Someone say something mean to you?"

Sooooooooo whipped....
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- Ant Farm
 
The ones in icu are still alive, a couple I really doubt are going to make it to morning. Here are some pics of those that made it to the brooder, a couple aren't pictured since their pics turned out blurry. Taking pics of hours old chicks isn't really easy! lol




These two came out feathered, my two roos aren't double gened and a several of my hen aren't double gened so this is always a possibility, at least one looks bearded though.



The one in the back I've been calling Gypsy girl (b/c of her face)









all the rest of these are the same girl I'm calling Beautimous
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