Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[nchvac]

Yeah, compare that to a different breed and see how much larger and how the crop on a different breed covers both sides of the neck instead of just the right side (left looking at the chicken). This breed is as unique to chickens as Muscovies are to ducks.

And I mean the crop on a NN is smaller than a different breed. Wonder why- looks like bigger would be better for storage and later digestion so can forage more efficiently. I must be looking at wrong because I have no chicken that can forage like a NN. In fact my rooster has taught my veteran hens how to forage.

 

[generaldsherman]

Is it normal for a NN to prefer foraging and Cracked Corn over feed? All of my hens tear the feed up but the rooster sits back and waits until the corn is put in the feeder and then they better get out of the way. He loves him some corn.
Are the hens the same, or is it just that the rooster doesn't need the nutrients in the Layer feed so he doesn't crave the feed? It is good feed- Dumor from TSC. I used to feed Purina Layena until I noticed the tags are remarkable similar, the feed looks/smells the same and the only difference in the labeling is some of the supplements are not listed in the daily allowance type chart yet the mineral supplement ingredients are clearly listed as being added. Also the bag is of the same material and stiching, so I call BS on a difference unless I am told otherwise.

I was told by one of the employees specifically to buy Dumor because it is basically the same thing packaged specially for TSC

 

[generaldsherman]

And I mean the crop on a NN is smaller than a different breed. Wonder why- looks like bigger would be better for storage and later digestion so can forage more efficiently. I must be looking at wrong because I have no chicken that can forage like a NN. In fact my rooster has taught my veteran hens how to forage.

Yeah, I swear that little chick has 2 days worth of food in there MINIMUM. will have to post a pic of the cutie later.

 

[Kev]

Thanks - yeah, I've pretty much decided to cull him, whenever I can get around to it.

As I am new to having roosters, could you guys maybe describe what sort of behavior would be called repeatedly raping? I don't really know what I should expect and have been watching Snape - not every act is consensual, and he chases, but if I culled every cockerel/rooster that chased and tried to mount pullets against their will, I'd have none left. Just wondering what other folks consider and where they draw the line. (Knowing that I will have to make my own decision about it in the end...)

- Ant Farm

It's the clearest when the girls are actively laying, because the typical pullet/hen in lay *wants* to be bred- how often is variable and she voluntarily squats before a rooster either out of the blue or when the rooster makes a 'mating intention' move plus she willingly squats if a rooster grabs her 'first'.

Quick moving hens are an exciting thing to roosters. That's for any time but is really obvious in the morning and evenings. So maybe some roosters like to put hens in a run for this excitement with the unfortunate thing of the hen being forced down in the end. This is allright if he otherwise is good with the hens, especially with cockerels.

The hatchery cockerel was constantly cornering the pullets, holding on as hard as he could no matter how much the she protested and fought. Like three times at least every hour. He also had the bad habit of passing by a pullet only to suddenly reach out to the side, startling the pullet into a fight/flight with him holding on and trying to get on.. The final clincher was how sometimes the pullets would try to group up and huddle in a corner to get away from him. Yet he would still barge in and randomly grab one... Never saw any of them squat voluntarily for him, both by themselves or when they were grabbed, he always had to fight to get on. Also they tended to run away and try to hide after he was done instead of the normal 'shaking it off'.

all said, Snape sounds largely typical for a cockerel, especially considering hatchery stock- bred strictly for making as many chicks for sales so the breeders are essentially randomly selected with lots of possibilites for what's called genetic drift. There is a good chance he will mellow out on the chasing part next year and seem to be a gentleman rooster.

 

[draye]

I was told by one of the employees specifically to buy Dumor because it is basically the same thing packaged specially for TSC

Not trying to start anything, but I lost a total if 25 chicks feeding that trash that Dumor mskes. Never feed that stuff again.

 

[generaldsherman]

Not trying to start anything, but I lost a total if 25 chicks feeding that trash that Dumor mskes. Never feed that stuff again.

Hmm... I've only used that and never had a problem. Don't think it was the feed, but whatever floats your boat.

 

[Kev]

Golem is a word here and it describes somebody who is huge. I think that you didn't know tgat then, but how big he is, lol!?

She is not very big at all lol The name is both after Gollum in Lord of the Rings and also after the Jewish folklore of the Golem- a creature made out of clay.

 

[Kev]

Is it normal for a NN to prefer foraging and Cracked Corn over feed? All of my hens tear the feed up but the rooster sits back and waits until the corn is put in the feeder and then they better get out of the way. He loves him some corn.
Are the hens the same, or is it just that the rooster doesn't need the nutrients in the Layer feed so he doesn't crave the feed? It is good feed- Dumor from TSC. I used to feed Purina Layena until I noticed the tags are remarkable similar, the feed looks/smells the same and the only difference in the labeling is some of the supplements are not listed in the daily allowance type chart yet the mineral supplement ingredients are clearly listed as being added. Also the bag is of the same material and stiching, so I call BS on a difference unless I am told otherwise.

Cracked corn is always the last thing left over when the feed hoppers are filled up. Scattered on the ground after everything else was cleaned up.

I do notice if they've been fed only layer for a while, they all get crazy over scratch.. that goes for any breed though.

In many areas NN were also valued for deliberately trying to search around for their own feed so maybe there is something to it. However I do wonder because so many NN have been mixed and crossed with other breeds so maybe some won't seem to have that trait..?

 

[Phill98]

She is not very big at all lol  The name is both after Gollum in Lord of the Rings and also after the Jewish folklore of the Golem- a creature made out of clay. 

I knew that there was no connection, but I just had to say that!

 

[Kev]

I knew that there was no connection, but I just had to say that!

And thank you for it- love learning about other languages and cultures. in my opinion far too many Americans are language deprived by being fluent in only English.