Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Kev]

I am not seeing any mention of S&G... nope.. no. nopity nope. Nothing to read, nothing to see, nothing to tempt...... sigh.

 

[Kev]

Hello, fellow Naked Neck fans. I'm not new to BYC but totally new to the NN thread. I ordered a couple NNs this past spring and received 3. Kind of did it on a whim - they sure seem to be an interesting looking bird and I always have a bunch of different breeds at one time. I was a little wigged out at their appearance as chicks but let me tell you, now that they are of near laying age, I am hooked. They are the favorites in my flock! Great personalities and so friendly! I think what amazed me was looking through all the NN pics on this forum. Had no idea they could be so many different colors. My three kind of look like red sex links in coloration but of course have the naked neck. Apparently there isn't a breed standard on color? Anyway, hope it's okay for a NN newbie to pop on over to this forum once in awhile and hang out with some fellow NN lovers!

More than welcome!

There is a breed standard with a set of accepted colors- black, white, buff and red if I recall correctly.

However, for reasons unknown to me the chick hatcheries have long made the statement of deliberately mixing the NN for 'varied colors'. Not like most hatcheries are really breeding to the standard for most breeds though and it seems pretty consistent for the hatchery NN to come out nearly all red/buff with black tails, with black chicks growing up with 'brown detailing' to maybe be the second most common. Whites are pretty rare... a few mottleds have shown up.

With backyard sources it is pretty par for the course for them to be mixed with other breeds, often as if they were 'the' breed. Mixes with silkies/frizzles/sizzles are pretty common as side effect of Showgirl popularity(naked neck silkies).

 

[draye]

http://sandgpoultry.com/bird-goldennugget.php

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

I am not seeing any mention of S&G... nope.. no. nopity nope. Nothing to read, nothing to see, nothing to tempt...... sigh.

 

[Turk Raphael]

I am not seeing any mention of S&G... nope.. no. nopity nope. Nothing to read, nothing to see, nothing to tempt...... sigh.

http://sandgpoultry.com/bird-rainbow.php


I don't think it's going to happen....NO, I KNOW it's not going to happen. Just BSing with sister and others but I don't want to add that many more more birds...just not ready for them now.

Too much going on with these 7 meat chicks, about 5 weeks old (that I'm truly in love with)...can't wait to show you pics...a solid black one. I think 2 are pure DC of much better quality than my hatchery birds that were given to me along with the White Chanteclers and 5 are pure DC over 50X50 DC--DCX pullet. Not show birds but just so massive for their age and I love their temperaments. Gonna cross the black with my best Chantecler hen. In the back of my mind I'm thinking 'Black Chantecler' if that's even possible. The black cockerel (I'm almost certain) has an upright stance, heavy powerful legs/shanks and long-ish neck. I PROMISE!!!PICS will come because this thing has a very strong visceral/testicular grasp on me!!!!! Thinking of trying to buy a couple more blacks from Linda if she has some with the same phenotype. Not much about chickens excites me like this notion.

These were sourced from Linda Patilski and I am so excited. There is so much going on between my house and things in West Virginia, I'm fearing a break down for myself and I not really kidding.

 

[chickengr]

my chicken math is killing me. just moved 5 pullets to the big coop and must spend about 1 hour every evening to calm them as the old ones (roos included) peck them. I still have to move more birds and I don't want to think about it.

I have decided to put my NN teenagers chica and choco with my araucana boy. maybe this time I get some green egger NNs.

 

[Beer can]

http://sandgpoultry.com/bird-rainbow.php


I don't think it's going to happen....NO, I KNOW it's not going to happen. Just BSing with sister and others but I don't want to add that many more more birds...just not ready for them now.

Too much going on with these 7 meat chicks, about 5 weeks old (that I'm truly in love with)...can't wait to show you pics...a solid black one. I think 2 are pure DC of much better quality than my hatchery birds that were given to me along with the White Chanteclers and 5 are pure DC over 50X50 DC--DCX pullet. Not show birds but just so massive for their age and I love their temperaments. Gonna cross the black with my best Chantecler hen. In the back of my mind I'm thinking 'Black Chantecler' if that's even possible. The black cockerel (I'm almost certain) has an upright stance, heavy powerful legs/shanks and long-ish neck. I PROMISE!!!PICS will come because this thing has a very strong visceral/testicular grasp on me!!!!! Thinking of trying to buy a couple more blacks from Linda if she has some with the same phenotype. Not much about chickens excites me like this notion.

These were sourced from Linda Patilski and I am so excited. There is so much going on between my house and things in West Virginia, I'm fearing a break down for myself and I not really kidding.

As long as it's a Foggy Mountain Breakdown, all's good bub....
Sorry, love this song, was going to post the original, but ohh well, love Hank III

 

[DesertChic]

I am not seeing any mention of S&G... nope.. no. nopity nope. Nothing to read, nothing to see, nothing to tempt...... sigh.

Oh...right....I'm totally convinced.

 

[Kev]

Tank has a bluish green patch on one of his leg near the "knee" joint just like that... When it first showed up I thought he had been injured, but I think it's pigmentation. What do you think is going on? Mosaicism?

I may have it figured out- eventually noticed she has a grey cast to her head/neck skin- missed it due to her not being NN. She is wheaten, which is a pigment dilutor, it also affects fibro negatively. So that leg patch is probably a patch of fibro showing through. A similar thing can happen on fibro combined with barring, mottle etc but more typically as small crisp spots of black on the body, sometimes as a light wash on the legs. There's so little information on fibro, not sure how exactly it works as for those spots showing up.

Sometimes fibro over yellow skin will cause a green shade to show up on the skin, instead of black. I mention this as fibro on white skin but with a fibro inhibitor present can cause the legs to look blue. I've had white feathered black skinned NN with blue legs before. Not sure how that works either...

It could be mosaicism on Tank as it plausibly could be a recessive gene(would have given him blue legs) showing on his white legs.

 

[Kev]

http://sandgpoultry.com/bird-rainbow.php

Apparently there might be a link somewhere up there in that space but I simply cannot see it...........

I have to say there is some charm in the idea of getting their NN, maybe some Rainbows and being done with diddling with all those different projects.

But I already see chicken math problems.. I like fibro. as far as I can tell, all of their NN/Rainbows are wheaten, which is a big repressor of fibro.. I also like the idea of crossing in my single comb colored egg layers, that part will be easy just breed with any of their stock and it is good to go.

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Oh do show us the black one(s)! Linda has very nice looking birds with great proportions.

What are white chants under their white feathers though? if they are dominant white, then they absolutely have to genetically black, most likely also barred... this would be great news for your black chant project. However if they're recessive white, then they could be almost any color.

Black crossed with a color chicken will throw leaky blacks. Unfortunately it is not terribly easy to breed out the leaky areas, especially without a solid black backcross.

More important than everything, do take it easy on yourself though..