Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Kev]

So far so good. 24 degrees 11 with windchill this last weekend. They say they ain't cold, doesn't seem to bother them at all. The four naked girls started laying a couple weeks ago and ain't missed a beat

Haha, it is amazing.. does seem hard to believe but hey, look at your birds.

 

[Kassaundra]

Hey everyone! I've decided to get 20 naked necks for laying and breeding this year, but I can't find a breeder. So do any of you ship chicks?
Also what's your opinions on the easiest color to keep breeding that's APA recognized

Nava sells chicks, and has great birds. She has both APA recognized colors and some that aren't.

 

[draye]

Okay tell me how I can get blue into my birds when there was no blue to begin with?
@Kev
Spangled Aloha rooster had two Red NN hens and a Red Partridge NN hen with him. I've got two babies from the last hatch that hatched out Red/yellow and was looking like they were getting the black color coming in like a darker red chicken, but checked today and it's blue not black.

Been raining so I can get pictures right now.

 

[Kev]

Hey everyone! I've decided to get 20 naked necks for laying and breeding this year, but I can't find a breeder. So do any of you ship chicks?
Also what's your opinions on the easiest color to keep breeding that's APA recognized

as mentioned, try Nava.

Probably white is easiest, aside from possibly fighting brassiness on roosters.

but a line that is consistent about producing solid blacks are good. leakage on blacks is VERY hard get rid of- part of the problem is "leaky" hen can look solid black but is passing on the leakage to her offspring... roosters are where the leakage problems show up.

If no brassiness in whites nor leakage in blacks, almost only have to worry about type, weight, correct comb... much easier to handle without having to worry about the color too.

 

[Kev]

Okay tell me how I can get blue into my birds when there was no blue to begin with?
@Kev
Spangled Aloha rooster had two Red NN hens and a Red Partridge NN hen with him. I've got two babies from the last hatch that hatched out Red/yellow and was looking like they were getting the black color coming in like a darker red chicken, but checked today and it's blue not black.

Been raining so I can get pictures right now.

Hmm not easy one to answer.. were the red and partridge hens from your own breeding for more than one generation? No blues?

I think the Aloha breeder has dun.. maybe blue? in her stock. I'm wondering if the rooster may be dun or blue if you never had blues come out in your NN stock.

The other tricky part is some blues can be so dark they pass for black. Had a "black" silkie rooster surprise me this way with producing more obviously blue offspring.

Never worked with dun, could not comment much if it is dun you're seeing. Send the pictures to the Aloha breeder too..

 

[draye]

Hmm not easy one to answer..   were the red and partridge hens from your own breeding for more than one generation?  No blues?

I think the Aloha breeder has dun.. maybe blue? in her stock.  I'm wondering if the rooster may be dun or blue if you never had blues come out in your NN stock.

The other tricky part is some blues can be so dark they pass for black.   Had a "black" silkie rooster surprise me this way with producing more obviously blue offspring.

Never worked with dun, could not comment much if it is dun you're seeing.  Send the pictures to the Aloha breeder too..

The lines that I used in that run do not carry any blue. But yes, they are all from my breeding.
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As far as I know the Aloha wee from eggs before the dun was added into the mix, the only blue that I'm aware of that was in the Aloha lines were from done EE, and she culled out that line of them because of the splash coming out, she was mixing it up with white.

Could be some overflow I suppose from that line that was missed.

The one that I'm calling Red Partridge is from a Pea Combed Red NN rooster (there was some Blue Red back in his line from a Gray or great great grandpa) and she was out of a Welsummer hen.

I'm about through with trying to keep up with the linage on these, it's getting quite complicated trying to keep up with them especially by group breeding the way I do. It was fun trying though.

I guess I'm asking if the blue can pop up like this when the was no blue in the actual breeding group.

Thank you Kev for your help.

 

[I Love Layers]

as mentioned, try Nava.

Probably white is easiest, aside from possibly fighting brassiness on roosters.

but a line that is consistent about producing solid blacks are good.  leakage on blacks is VERY hard get rid of- part of the problem is "leaky" hen can look solid black but is passing on the leakage to her offspring... roosters are where the leakage problems show up.

If no brassiness in whites nor leakage in blacks, almost only have to worry about type, weight, correct comb...  much easier to handle without having to worry about the color too.

Thank you! I just started breeding cochins, and one of my males has read leakage, good type and a lovely bird except for the red leakage...

 

[Kev]

The lines that I used in that run do not carry any blue. But yes, they are all from my breeding.
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As far as I know the Aloha wee from eggs before the dun was added into the mix, the only blue that I'm aware of that was in the Aloha lines were from done EE, and she culled out that line of them because of the splash coming out, she was mixing it up with white.

Could be some overflow I suppose from that line that was missed.

The one that I'm calling Red Partridge is from a Pea Combed Red NN rooster (there was some Blue Red back in his line from a Gray or great great grandpa) and she was out of a Welsummer hen.

I'm about through with trying to keep up with the linage on these, it's getting quite complicated trying to keep up with them especially by group breeding the way I do. It was fun trying though.

I guess I'm asking if the blue can pop up like this when the was no blue in the actual breeding group.

Thank you Kev for your help.

No problem.

there is no way for blue to pop up out of non blues. looking forward to pics.

 

[Kev]

Thank you! I just started breeding cochins, and one of my males has read leakage, good type and a lovely bird except for the red leakage...

Haha swear that always happens.. the best ones leak, the worst ones are perfectly colored. So annoying.

 

[DesertChic]

Haha swear that always happens.. the best ones leak, the worst ones are perfectly colored. So annoying.

I managed to get one pure black NN pullet, but her mother was a frizzle and she has this absurd little trio of feathers sticking up on the top of her head. It amuses me to no end, but also voids her as a show bird. I'm hoping I can cross her with my birchen-esque rooster and produce some better pure blacks.