Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Guy4God]

I don’t know how many are doing it, but choosing a breed line that produces a lot of eggs to cross with is definitely an option. The Naked Neck gene is dominant so depending on if it is NN or Nn that will determine the % chance of each chick being Naked Neck.

So if your Naked Neck is Nn each fertile egg that hatches has a 25% chance to be Nn or 75% chance to be nn. If however your Naked Neck is NN then 100% of the chicks will be Nn. If you cross Nn with Nn birds the ratios work out to 25% NN, 25% nn & 50% Nn.

The bird with the “bow tie” are Nn, the birds with a true naked neck are NN.

Now back to egg production… crossing for production, you should be able to improve by using lines known for high production. Any production breed or hybrid production birds should work.

If you are trying to stay close to Naked Neck SoP you will need to choose breeds/lines that work best with that. You may want to read up on chicken body types most associated with egg laying as well as that will help you better select breeding stock for egg lying.

I hope this helps.

I'm sure all hatchery birds are Nn? So even breeding to themselves, will I ever hatch an NN?

 

[Guy4God]

I don’t know how many are doing it, but choosing a breed line that produces a lot of eggs to cross with is definitely an option. The Naked Neck gene is dominant so depending on if it is NN or Nn that will determine the % chance of each chick being Naked Neck.

So if your Naked Neck is Nn each fertile egg that hatches has a 25% chance to be Nn or 75% chance to be nn. If however your Naked Neck is NN then 100% of the chicks will be Nn. If you cross Nn with Nn birds the ratios work out to 25% NN, 25% nn & 50% Nn.

The bird with the “bow tie” are Nn, the birds with a true naked neck are NN.

Now back to egg production… crossing for production, you should be able to improve by using lines known for high production. Any production breed or hybrid production birds should work.

If you are trying to stay close to Naked Neck SoP you will need to choose breeds/lines that work best with that. You may want to read up on chicken body types most associated with egg laying as well as that will help you better select breeding stock for egg lying.

I hope this helps.

Ok so if I breed hatchery Nn to hatchery Nn....25% will be true NN?

 

[Lauravonsmurf]

Ok so how this works out in real life is each egg has a % chance to to get the N gene. If you had enough birds and incubation space out of 100 eggs that hatch then you would get close 25 chicks with the NN combo. The kicker is each new fertilized egg is a roll of the percentage dice. However your odds aren’t bad that you might get a few with NN. So remember Mother Nature rolls them dice on each egg not only for sex but what ever genes you are trying to breed for.

Once you have a rooster with NN you will be able to improve the % chance of getting more NN chicks. Once you have enough NNs of both sexes then you can stop using the Nn’s in breeding and cull them out.

Don’t stress generations of small flock breeders have been successful in getting traits breed into their flocks by sticking to a plan.

 

[Lauravonsmurf]

Yes you have a chance to get NN from Nn x Nn as that cross can produce all 3 potentials

 

[Lauravonsmurf]

This is a Nn hen. Note the “bow tie”

 

[chickengr]

Ok so if I breed hatchery Nn to hatchery Nn....25% will be true NN?

those % didn't work for me. but there is a chance to get true NN. you just need to hatch a lot of eggs. not every egg will hatch and that causes different %.

 

[chickengr]

I know someone who keeps NN boys with Nn girls. that way all the chicks are naked necks, either NN or Nn.

 

[Guy4God]

You will know right away at hatch if they are NN or Nn, correct?

 

[Egg Snatcher]

You will know right away at hatch if they are NN or Nn, correct?

Yes, Nn will have a “bow tie” (small patch of feathers on the neck) and NN aka stripper will have no feathers on the neck.

 

[Lauravonsmurf]

Yes they will have a puff of chick down on their naked necks… those are Nn & no puff of fluff if NN