Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[ca]

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Ahw! Very cute!

Is that bubble wrap?

 

[pgpoultry]

Yes, I use bubble wrap with small bubbles. Great for preventing straddle legs, and just take it off and stick on another as soon as it gets dirty.

I think I am going to have to re-fill the 'bator....

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

Hi! It looks "medium" to me. Seriously, I couldn't say from the pic.
Do you know who the parents are?
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Precious! Just precious!
edit: Are those Morts children?
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Lisa

 

[flower]

Posting of the genetic chart does not answer my question. If the naked neck is a dominate gene, why was it not passed down in this case of breeding. I though that since it is a dominate gene the naked neck would be inherited by any chicken to which it is mated. If you mate a chicken with feather feet a certain percent of offsprings will have feather feet and some will carry the feather leg gene ?

The genetic chart that is posted lists both parents as being some N. But what if you mate a full feather rooster to a naked neck hen ? And in the case as below the roster with naked neck mated with full feather hens. If the naked gene is dominate, why are none of the chicks with the naked gene ?



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Hi! No, they don't carry the Naked Neck gene --- either they show a naked neck or they didn't inherit the gene at all.

Lisa

 

[Kev]

I think the original question may have been "do the non-naked necked chicks from a naked neck breeding have the gene in them or not?". They probably got some naked necked chicks too but were wondering specifically about the non-NN ones, as in do those 'carry' the gene in some way or ??

If they did not get any NN chicks, it was because the sample size was too small plus it is proof their rooster is not pure for the NN gene. Not pure NN bred with say, a barred rock will throw half NN and half not NN chicks. However, just as flipping a coin, you're supposed to get half heads half tails but often it will seem mostly tails or mostly heads if done only a few times. It's only after 100 times, the ratio will show an expected average of 50/50. If they didn't get any NN chicks, it was only coincidence(same as happening to get only tails with 10 flips of coin) and if they set more eggs, they will see NN chicks.

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Hi! No, they don't carry the Naked Neck gene --- either they show a naked neck or they didn't inherit the gene at all.

Lisa

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

Hi!
na+na+ in the chart is feather neck (as in full feather neck / not a naked neck).

daisychick wrote:
Ok I need some info please.

I had a batch of babies from a NN Roo and regular feathered hens. The offspring from those that have regular feathers, do they carry the NN gene?

Daisychicks Naked Neck male must be Nana+ and the feather neck hen is na+na+ = 50% Nana+ chicks and 50% na+na+ chicks.
The na+na+ chicks did not inherit the naked neck gene at all.

I hope that makes sense, I'm not a good 'explainer'.

Lisa​

 

[ca]

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Flower, it's a numbers game.
Each chick gets one gene from each parent. The parents each have have two copies of the same gene (one from each of their parents).

Let's assign colors and assume green means Na (yes! to naked neck) and red means na+ (no to naked neck).
So the chick-to-be goes to the father who has TWO green genes because he is a pure naked neck. It picks ONLY ONE of his genes. But because they are BOTH green, it does not make a difference. Now the chick-to-be goes to the mother (who is a pure leghorn and therefore has TWO red genes) and picks ONLY ONE of her genes. But because they are BOTH red, it does not make a difference. ALL chicks will end up with ONE green and ONE red. That means they all look like naked necks but their genes are only HALF naked neck, hence Na na+.

So now one of these chicks becomes a father. Remember, he has ONE green and ONE red gene. The next generation chick-to-be goes to the father and picks a gene. You can safely assume that 50% of the time it will be ONE red gene and 50% of the time it will be ONE green gene. Mix that now with the guaranteed red gene from the leghorn mother. In this generation the 50% of chicks that picked the green gene from the dad will look like naked necks (although they are genetically only HALF naked necks and half feathered necks) and the other 50%? Those poor fellows picked the red gene from the dad and end up with ONLY red genes. They will have a feathered neck for sure and so will all their offspring.

Dominant means that if a green and a red gene are present at the same time, the green gene wins! Hence chick will look like naked neck. But if the chick does not pick the green gene dominance does not work because there is nothing there!

 

[key west chick]

Here is my newest. Mom is an olive egger so it has muffs.

 

[flower]

Thank you Kev, Dipsy and Ca for working so hard to try to educate me. Certainly the red and green analogy is clear. But.........although daisy did not say that all of the offspring were fully feathered, the post as I read it sounds as if they were all fully feathered. How ever she did not say how many chicks hatched out. I am interested in all of this because from all the information on this thread I am thinking that I can raise many different types of turkens. Finally I do have one little chick and I hope to use her to breed others. I need to work small scale because of "well you know limitations".

And if my order ever arrives I will incubate bantams and have them to work with. (small scale)

 

[Knock Kneed Hen]

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Oh!! I love the little muffs on that little tike!! Keep posting pics so we can see how it feathers out, will you please?