Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[ca]

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I agree with your statement, and I am not going to correct you. However, give me your thoughts on this scenario. I have a chick from a black bow tie rooster and a black no bow tie hen.
The chick is now 7 weeks old and looks to be female. She is almost completely white. Just a few black feathers on her butt. She has a completely feathered neck. However, she has 5 toes
on only 1 foot with feathers on both feet and a big frizzy beard. Her feet and legs are white, not black like mom & dad.

Previously, I have had 2 batches of chix from this same combo. None have been predominately white or had completely feathered necks, although I have had some DOAs.
There are no frizzes at Rancho Nada Mayor. What do you think? The roosters Mama was sleeping with the Postman, or grandpa could be a frizzy?

Jelly

any sneaky neighboring roosters you could blame?

 

[pgpoultry]

I think she has been 'visited' by a roving rooster...she'll claim it's a genetic mutation, of course......but seriously, I don't think that this could have happened with the suggested parent birds.

I suggest you ground your black hen with no bow tie...wait a minute, though, she is already being kept in at night!

Thinking about it, a hen with no bow tie should only produce 'bow tie' chicks with a fully feathered rooster, so I would think that the egg has to belong to another hen......somebody depositing eggs in your coop???

 

[flower]

PG Your solution sounds perfect. I like the way you wrote up the scenario in a deductive manner. Looks like you have the ability to become the next Welsh detective story author.

 

[Knock Kneed Hen]

I set the wrong egg!!! I thought it was from my bantam hen, but instead I set the egg from my LF barred hen with the bowtie. Good news is that I have a completely NN little something (suspiciously starting to look like a cockerel

) AND now I know which are the bantams eggs for sure so that when I give them to flower she'll have the correct eggs with no surprises!!

I don't know much about hatching out chicks since this is my first attempt. When the chicks hatched out one was much smaller than the other so I assumed that it WAS from the bantam pair. However, it's now almost the same size as the other one and since it's feathering out it's obvious who it came from since I only have one barred hen in my flock. I'm learning new things every day!!

 

[gootziecat]

.....now I know which are the bantams eggs for sure....

KKHen, Are you saying your NN bantam eggs are nearly the same size as your NN LF eggs? Or did I misunderstand?​

 

[old*cowboy]

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KKHen, Are you saying your NN bantam eggs are nearly the same size as your NN LF eggs? Or did I misunderstand?

I have a cornish bantam hen that lays as large of egg as lots of my LF.

 

[Knock Kneed Hen]

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KKHen, Are you saying your NN bantam eggs are nearly the same size as your NN LF eggs? Or did I misunderstand?

Well, that's what I said...but I am presently claiming a state of insanity.

I went back and looked at pics of my LF barred NN with a bowtie's egg and it's definitely olive and the bigger of the two eggs. The other egg is slightly smaller and it's a light green, not olive at all. I set the light green egg...but why do I have a barred chick then? KEV! WHERE ARE YOU??!!

%#$*@!#!!! Before I send any eggs off with flower I'm going to have to sit down in the coop and watch to see which egg the little bantam hen lays so I get it right. . . . because right now I'm utterly confused!!

I also got my barred NN hen, although indirectly, from Kev's stock. Clearly I DON'T do this very often.

 

[Knock Kneed Hen]

Attention everyone!! Submit your photographs into the 2012 photo contest and lets get a NN in next years calendar!!

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=531803

 

[Kev]

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Pretty common- lots of NN are either mixed breed, either NN crossed with ?(cochin, barred rock, RIR or...) or "mutts". Or they are basically 'pure' NN as far as general type(hatchery stock are examples of this) but not all birds are pure for the naked neck trait. If there are breeder birds not pure for the naked neck gene, there will always be some non-naked neck chicks.

One way to tell if a stock will produce some non-naked necks is by seeing if some of the birds have huge bowties covering most of their front necks. Especially if it's a mixed flock of say, a NN roo with large bowtie with some NN hens plus a couple BR or RIR hens... most certainly going to get some non-nakeds from that sort of group.

Birds pure for NN have either tiny bowties with only a couple feathers on each side of neck(as a result their necks are very visible) or totally bare necks- those are not that common in US though. Majority of pure NN birds in US have tiny or small bowties.

 

[Kev]

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Spot on. A bird pure for NN cannot produce non-NN chicks so she did not lay that egg/is not mother of that chick.

Description of chick sounds like a cross with dominant white or possibly it's a splash. (mostly white with some random black feathers?) I'd suspect anything with dominant white- leghorn, red sex link, or... Are there silkies or faverolles in the flock? The beard, leg feathering and extra toes on the chick is why I'm asking- my guess would have been either a cross or bred with a silkie mix. (assuming the NN birds don't have those traits) Beard, leg feathering and extra toes are all dominant/semi dominant traits, if both of the NN birds don't have any of these, it's further proof it was not at least the NN hen's chick.