Naturally Free Organic Layer Pellets + Grub Protein

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What do you thing of this food for guineas? https://www.scratchandpeck.com/shop/organic-layer-pellets-grub-protein/

https://www.amazon.com/Scratch-Peck...r+pellets+++grub+protein,aps,1534&sr=8-5&th=1
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I do not feed scratch to any of my poultry.

I don't worry about the Organic label. I'm not going to pay extra for a label that may or may not be valid. Too many companies slap the organic label on things to increase the price whether or not it is actually organic. Many of the organic feeds that I looked into are deficient in some of the necessities.

I have not looked into the layer feed that you are looking at but can pretty much guess that it is lower in lysine, methionine and niacin than an all flock will have.
 
I do not feed scratch to any of my poultry.

I don't worry about the Organic label. I'm not going to pay extra for a label that may or may not be valid. Too many companies slap the organic label on things to increase the price whether or not it is actually organic. Many of the organic feeds that I looked into are deficient in some of the necessities.

I have not looked into the layer feed that you are looking at but can pretty much guess that it is lower in lysine, methionine and niacin than an all flock will have.
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One reason to not feed layer feed to guineas is the Calcium content in the layer feed. High Calcium content can be harmful to young, non-laying hens and males by causing damage to their kidneys.

I feed all flock which has about 1% Calcium and provide free choice oyster shell on the side. Right now none of my guinea hens are laying and none of them are eating any of the oyster shell.
 
One reason to not feed layer feed to guineas is the Calcium content in the layer feed. High Calcium content can be harmful to young, non-laying hens and males by causing damage to their kidneys.

I feed all flock which has about 1% Calcium and provide free choice oyster shell on the side. Right now none of my guinea hens are laying and none of them are eating any of the oyster shell.
I thought that might be the case, as I recall the seemingly great feed I had once that turned out to also be layer feed.
 
I think it’s an intriguing idea for feed. I do really like the idea of insect protein in feed, though I’ve also seen concern about prion diseases with that approach (that’s a head scratcher). If you search on BYCs you’ll find numerous threads on these whole grain diets.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/posts/24520548

Some people love them but the high cost is real, and there can be issues with birds choosing some of the food and leaving other parts behind, making it unbalanced. Some of those who like it will wet or ferment it. Aside from the whole grain element, there is the issue of feeding a layer feed to a flock that may not all be laying… I do put all of my birds on layer feed for awhile In the spring, roosters and cocks included. However I didn’t feed that for very long, not more than a few months, then I switch back to chick starter grower to give the kidneys of the non-layers a needed break.
 
I think it’s an intriguing idea for feed. I do really like the idea of insect protein in feed, though I’ve also seen concern about prion diseases with that approach (that’s a head scratcher). If you search on BYCs you’ll find numerous threads on these whole grain diets.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/posts/24520548

Some people love them but the high cost is real, and there can be issues with birds choosing some of the food and leaving other parts behind, making it unbalanced. Some of those who like it will wet or ferment it. Aside from the whole grain element, there is the issue of feeding a layer feed to a flock that may not all be laying… I do put all of my birds on layer feed for awhile In the spring, roosters and cocks included. However I didn’t feed that for very long, not more than a few months, then I switch back to chick starter grower to give the kidneys of the non-layers a needed break.
I had an insect-protein based feed..I think last year? They loved it, I loved the idea. I mean, we're employing (<-:gig) them to eat bugs, seemed rational to me. But, it was a layer feed, & I was heavy on males & light on hens, not so rational.
I thought abt going back to it for the winter since it's literally a hen house at the mo, but I've also learned that they don't like variation in their diets & get miffed over changes. -ultimately in the spring, it wld have to change when Numi moves in. I've never noted anyone in here saying they feed their hens & males diff diets. I'm not sure how one wld go abt that w/o separate housing, & I'm certainly not risking Numi's health w/too much calcium. -Am I the only one partial to the males?!:lau
 
One reason to not feed layer feed to guineas is the Calcium content in the layer feed. High Calcium content can be harmful to young, non-laying hens and males by causing damage to their kidneys.

I feed all flock which has about 1% Calcium and provide free choice oyster shell on the side. Right now none of my guinea hens are laying and none of them are eating any of the oyster shell.
That makes sense.
 

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