Nearly DOA mail order chicks

[ChickenCanoe]

Wow! Against the law. The PO would pull the packages if they knew that.
How can they be smaller than day old Seramas that are shipped regularly as day olds. Or quail for that matter.

 

[Windus]

In all honesty, I would blame the seller. Not only did they illegally ship 10 day old chicks, they did not ship them as special handled. Sorry, but I would be reporting them to the Post Office, that is cruelty to animals in my estimation.

 

[Kiki]

Wow! Against the law. The PO would pull the packages if they knew that.
How can they be smaller than day old Seramas that are shipped regularly as day olds. Or quail for that matter.

They also claim to be NPIP.
NPIP should know better.

 

[Ravynscroft]

Good plan.
In the meantime, order some Nutri Drench.


Bad things can happen when most of the shipping process is automated. For an extra special handling fee, one can insure the package is handled manually.
USPS usually contracts with other vendors for the air handling so during that time it is out of their control. I truly appreciate the PO. Without them, we'd have to drive our birds across the country to hand deliver them.



Well, there's your problem. It is against USPS regulations to ship anything other than DAY OLD chicks and ADULT birds. 4 days old, 10 days old are not deemed to be able to survive shipping. That's the reason for the rules. Most of your chicks failed to survive because they were shipped outside of the mail-able parameters.
Were they shipped overnight yesterday morning?

The following live, day–old animals are acceptable for mailing when properly packaged: chickens, ducks, emus, geese, guinea birds, partridges, pheasants (only during April through August), quail, and turkeys. All other types of live, day–old poultry are nonmailable. Day–old poultry vaccinated with Newcastle disease (live virus) also is nonmailable.
The specific types of day-old poultry named above are mailable under the following conditions.

1. Poultry that is not more than 24 hours old and is presented for mailing in the original, unopened hatchery box from the hatchery of origin.
2. The date and hour of hatching is noted on the box by a representative of the hatchery who has personal knowledge thereof. (For Collect on Delivery (COD) shipments made by a hatchery for the account of others, the name or initials and address of the hatchery or the Post Office box number and address of the hatchery must be prominently shown for this standard.)
3. Box is properly ventilated, of proper construction and strength to bear safe transport in the mail, and is not stacked more than 10 units high.
4. Day–old poultry is mailed early enough in the week to avoid receipt at the office of address (in case of missed connections) on a Sunday, a national holiday, or the afternoon before a Sunday or national holiday.
5. Day–old poultry can be delivered to the addressee within 72 hours of the time of hatching.
6. Day-old poultry sent via surface transportation, must include special handling service fees, in addition to regular postage.
7. Day-old poultry sent via air transportation must meet all provisions of the airlines. Delivery of the mailpiece is dependent on the availability of air carriers having available equipment to safely deliver the day–old poultry within the specified time limit.
8. Day–old poultry that is first shipped via a commercial air express or air cargo service and then presented for mailing to a final destination must be in good condition and properly packaged as specified in526.32a-e.
9. Boxes of day–old poultry of about identical size, securely fastened together to prevent separation in transit, may be accepted for mailing as a single parcel, provided the total length and girth combined does not exceed Postal Service limits.

I disagree. 10 day old chicks should never be shipped.
Regulations.
https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c5_008.htm#ep184002


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X3!

I'm old as the hills and learn every day.
I didn't know all this stuff years ago.
When packages are in the automated system, they travel down conveyors and drop into bins. Without the special handling, no humans come into contact with the packages during in transit sorting.

All Live Animal shipments should be done in properly marked and USPS approved boxes... those are handled separately than regular post and Special Handling... they keep them aside in their own designated area and are hand loaded after the regular post...

But the boxes *must* be marked Live and be made within USPS standards... Horizon is the most popular and is an approved company by USPS for live handling boxes...

 

[ChickenCanoe]

NPIP is a fairly thin protection device. It only certifies that birds have been tested to be free of pullorum-typhoid.
They don't really have control of what people do as regards to putting birds in shipping boxes.

 

[Smuvers Farm]

So, out of 8, how many do you have that are alive and kicking? Did you heat? Electrolyte load? Please update.

 

[Crooked path]

I have 4 of 8 alive and doing well. The survivor came around after about an hour in the incubator and has been steadily getting more rowdy since. Can't tell it even had trouble now. I have them on organic chick crumble but by the time I left the house again today, I didn't see much need for the 20 mile trip the other direction. I'll grab some to have on hand next time I shop.

 

[Kiki]

NPIP is a fairly thin protection device. It only certifies that birds have been tested to be free of pullorum-typhoid.
They don't really have control of what people do as regards to putting birds in shipping boxes.

I understand, jus saying I have run across quite a few people who are NPIP and claim being so it much more than just PT testing...I giggle.

 

[Kiki]

I have 4 of 8 alive and doing well. The survivor came around after about an hour in the incubator and has been steadily getting more rowdy since. Can't tell it even had trouble now. I have them on organic chick crumble but by the time I left the house again today, I didn't see much need for the 20 mile trip the other direction. I'll grab some to have on hand next time I shop.

You could also try soaking their feed in water with some type of electrolytes in it if you don't have the ND.

 

[Crooked path]

You could also try soaking their feed in water with some type of electrolytes in it if you don't have the ND.

Would Gatorade work?