Need help identifying this breed

[Trisseh]

I have only ever heard of the equine terms mule/hinny.

So strange that they are also used to describe duck hybrids too.

I think they’re also sometimes referred to as mulards and moulards; I only looked into them when I found myself unexpectedly the owner of one. Lol.

 

[Poultry mum]

I think they’re also sometimes referred to as mulards and moulards; I only looked into them when I found myself unexpectedly the owner of one. Lol.

mullard....is the result of a Muscovy and a mallard.... to my knowledge

and it was more her cruncles (sorry can’t spell today) that made her look “male” ( see the photo below) compared to my other females

 

[Trisseh]

mullard....is the result of a Muscovy and a mallard.... to my knowledge

and it was more her cruncles (sorry can’t spell today) that made her look “male” ( see the photo below) compared to my other females

My understanding is that it’s a lot of different names for the same thing. he was a handsome fella, the one I had. this is him when I first got him. He developed some decent facial additions as he aged. Unfortunately he was not a very nice bird to anyone else and was separated into his own pen, where something ate him.

your girl looks to me (by no means a Muscovy expert) to be mature; her caruncles look normal to me but again, I don’t have extensive knowledge of them, just the few I’ve had contact with through work or friends. She definitely is a bit blockier than the other ladies, and has more pronounced caruncles. I wonder if it’s also partly her colouring that makes them pop more than on the white ladies.

 

[Poultry mum]

My understanding is that it’s a lot of different names for the same thing. he was a handsome fella, the one I had. this is him when I first got him. He developed some decent facial additions as he aged. Unfortunately he was not a very nice bird to anyone else and was separated into his own pen, where something ate him. View attachment 2522505

your girl looks to me (by no means a Muscovy expert) to be mature; her caruncles look normal to me but again, I don’t have extensive knowledge of them, just the few I’ve had contact with through work or friends. She definitely is a bit blockier than the other ladies, and has more pronounced caruncles. I wonder if it’s also partly her colouring that makes them pop more than on the white ladies.

From what I can gather she is what is known as a “wild type”.... meaning this is what the wild females are meant to look like.... she’s also the youngest of my laying aged females

 

[ColtHandorf]

That whole thread was like a dumpster fire.

Sounds familiar.

A question could this also happen if she was “inbred”

If the bird in question is indeed a cross between a Golden-laced Wyandotte and a Barnevelder as the veterinarian claimed, then no, it's not even possible for the bird to be inbred as its parents were most certainly not related.

I’ll share a photo of “abbey” my female muscovy

I raise Muscovies and she looks very female to me. If you want to see something terrifying, Google show-quality Muscovy images. The amount of caruncles on the males is revolting. Like I don't even know how they see to do anything.

I think they’re also sometimes referred to as mulards and moulards

That's a horrible name. Haha Sometimes "we" as a collective of poultry people make the strangest decisions.

I'd also like to say that the egg color is inconsistent with either of the two supposed parent breeds, and no way, no how, did little miss or mister lay that egg. Much too young. Besides, when their bodies have undergone stress from poor nutrition, etc., especially at a young age, the bird is going to devote valuable energy and resources into re-growing the lost feathers, and putting on weight, not wasting time producing eggs. You can see that behavior in healthy chickens during a molt.

 

[TheOddOneOut]

Sounds familiar.

If the bird in question is indeed a cross between a Golden-laced Wyandotte and a Barnevelder as the veterinarian claimed, then no, it's not even possible for the bird to be inbred as its parents were most certainly not related.

I raise Muscovies and she looks very female to me. If you want to see something terrifying, Google show-quality Muscovy images. The amount of caruncles on the males is revolting. Like I don't even know how they see to do anything.

That's a horrible name. Haha Sometimes "we" as a collective of poultry people make the strangest decisions.

I'd also like to say that the egg color is inconsistent with either of the two supposed parent breeds, and no way, no how, did little miss or mister lay that egg. Much too young. Besides, when their bodies have undergone stress from poor nutrition, etc., especially at a young age, the bird is going to devote valuable energy and resources into re-growing the lost feathers, and putting on weight, not wasting time producing eggs. You can see that behavior in healthy chickens during a molt.

 

[Poultry mum]

Sounds familiar.

If the bird in question is indeed a cross between a Golden-laced Wyandotte and a Barnevelder as the veterinarian claimed, then no, it's not even possible for the bird to be inbred as its parents were most certainly not related.

I raise Muscovies and she looks very female to me. If you want to see something terrifying, Google show-quality Muscovy images. The amount of caruncles on the males is revolting. Like I don't even know how they see to do anything.

That's a horrible name. Haha Sometimes "we" as a collective of poultry people make the strangest decisions.

I'd also like to say that the egg color is inconsistent with either of the two supposed parent breeds, and no way, no how, did little miss or mister lay that egg. Much too young. Besides, when their bodies have undergone stress from poor nutrition, etc., especially at a young age, the bird is going to devote valuable energy and resources into re-growing the lost feathers, and putting on weight, not wasting time producing eggs. You can see that behavior in healthy chickens during a molt.

i Know what you mean by the show scovies I look and and say to them “ you’ll win for sure your so much prettier...” lol.....

could it be possible then that because she was malnurtioned that her body just simply could make enough of the female hormone So to keep herself going it produced slightly more male hormone even though she is a girl.... kind of like women who have to take testosterone to strengthen their immune system for what ever reason?....

and yes I worked out that it wasn’t her egg at all.... it was from one of isa’s she had been harbouring everyone’s eggs in her box and when it was full she found a new place to start a new pile.... this is why I need a rooster

 

[TheOddOneOut]

i Know what you mean by the show scovies I look and and say to them “ you’ll win for sure your so much prettier...” lol.....

could it be possible then that because she was malnurtioned that her body just simply could make enough of the female hormone So to keep herself going it produced slightly more male hormone even though she is a girl.... kind of like women who have to take testosterone to strengthen their immune system for what ever reason?....

and yes I worked out that it wasn’t her egg at all.... it was from one of isa’s she had been harbouring everyone’s eggs in her box and when it was full she found a new place to start a new pile.... this is why I need a rooster

Well, you may have one...
Lol.

 

[Poultry mum]

Well, you may have one...
Lol.

She’s definitely not a rooster..... I’ve compared her to ALOT of pictures of Wyandotte’s that are around her age that I’ve found on the net... even asked a chicken breeder that I found on the net if she was a girl or a boy...
the only people that have said shes a he are those on here.... it has got me puzzled though why I would get such mixed responses....

 

[Poultry mum]

Here are the feathers I mean:
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But better photos would be helpful.

See those, long, thin, shiny feathers? Those are saddles coming in.



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Here’s the saddlesView attachment 2521467
If you want I could show you my cuckoo cockerel who also has saddles that size Your bird is very pretty.

See below. These appear to be male saddles. But OPs bird is an interesting case. Looking forward to seeing how she developes.

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Seeing as so many areas on my dear Audrey are ”saddle” feathers it makes me wonder if she is just growing wonky feathers coz she was feed such a bad diet as a chick...