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I got these from Gitlost80 but I don't know if she sells them on Craigslist. I got the cochin from her too but I got the penes from Eddie Miller. Eddie lives out in Stagecoach (where I got my first marans that laid such pretty eggs). I am looking forward to watching them feather out and grow up too. The one frizzled cochin will probably look odd next to all my other chickens but I'm ready for a few oddballs at this stage.