new research debunks trad views on nutrition

[Shadrach]

another piece today on easy accessible foods that are good for our microbiomes (and that don't start with k)
https://www.theguardian.com/food/ar...alth-and-arent-kimchi-kombucha-kraut-or-kefir

People are getting duped a bit with the K probiotics is my feeling. I read the above article on another news platform. I eat all that's listed in moderate amounts.

 

[Kenya Mwangi]

Hello I like how Stromcow doesn't interject with overdone verbiage when you all talk. I think this is because they cannot dupe you.

 

[RoyalChick]

Some great news on wheat today: in particular, the DNA sequencing of a seed archive of pre-20th-century-industrial-agricultural wheats from all over the globe. Turns out that wheat DNA is more than 5 times bigger than human DNA, so there is an enormous amount of variety there, and modern wheats only use about 40% of that genetic diversity.
https://www.theguardian.com/science...rs-ago-may-help-feed-the-world-scientists-say

Well that is pretty cool.
Can they grow any of the old wheats do you think, or will they need to use genetic editing to revive the diversity?

 

[Perris]

Well that is pretty cool.
Can they grow any of the old wheats do you think, or will they need to use genetic editing to revive the diversity?

they already are growing selected strains; there's more detail here, from the Institute at the heart of the research, with links to online resources of the gene data for anyone to explore if they wish:

"the team developed a core set of 119 landraces which represented the breadth of the genetic variation within the Watkins collection. This diversity set was then crossed and back crossed them into modern wheat to make a collection of 12,000 lines of wheat that are now stored in the Germplasm Resource Unit at the John Innes Centre.

This means that for the first time in 100 years these lost traits have been incorporated into modern wheat, and the data and tools are already being used to improve crops." https://www.jic.ac.uk/press-release...treasure-diversity-historic-wheat-collection/

 

[Sally PB]

This means that for the first time in 100 years these lost traits have been incorporated into modern wheat,

What I'd give for a wheat that didn't trigger my gluten sensitivity. And someone to grow enough and mill it into flour.

This was NOT a problem when I was younger. I had my issue* occasionally in my early 40s, but still ate wheat. I remember once or twice in my 30s, but never before that. I lived on PBJ sandwiches as a kid, and through college.

In my 50s, it got much, much worse, and I went GF.

*my issue: my shins itch like MAD. I want to take the skin off with a brillo pad. Cortisone creams don't do a thing about it, either.

 

[Molpet]

What I'd give for a wheat that didn't trigger my gluten sensitivity. And someone to grow enough and mill it into flour.

This was NOT a problem when I was younger. I had my issue* occasionally in my early 40s, but still ate wheat. I remember once or twice in my 30s, but never before that. I lived on PBJ sandwiches as a kid, and through college.

In my 50s, it got much, much worse, and I went GF.

*my issue: my shins itch like MAD. I want to take the skin off with a brillo pad. Cortisone creams don't do a thing about it, either.

In 2012 I mentioned to my chiropractor that my joints hurt so much that they woke me up. She said probably wheat sensitivity.....ran a test and said 37 foods to avoid. When I cut out the wheat I quit waking up hurting. Cows milk and sinuses are better. Not sure about the other 35 but most I avoid anyway

 

[RoyalChick]

In 2012 I mentioned to my chiropractor that my joints hurt so much that they woke me up. She said probably wheat sensitivity.....ran a test and said 37 foods to avoid. When I cut out the wheat I quit waking up hurting. Cows milk and sinuses are better. Not sure about the other 35 but most I avoid anyway

What kind of test did you have. I am thinking maybe food is the cause of my muscle stiffness. The most popular diagnosis in the medical community is ‘long Lyme’. But nobody has looked at food as a potential cause.

 

[Molpet]

What kind of test did you have. I am thinking maybe food is the cause of my muscle stiffness. The most popular diagnosis in the medical community is ‘long Lyme’. But nobody has looked at food as a potential cause.

They took 3 vials of blood and sent to a lab. At the time my insurance covered it.
It's considered controversial though.
https://integrishealth.org/resources/on-your-health/2023/april/mrt-test

Somethings it said to avoid I never or rarely ate anyway. I cut out things I normally ate as I ran out. After a week of no wheat I quit waking up hurting. The first thing I added back was black pepper, because it's in everything. I didn't notice a difference. A week later I had 2 crackers and woke up hurting. Same with cows milk and sinuses. I wasn't too eager to add anything else back.

 

[Molpet]

Well this is discouraging

"Professor Huhn's study suggests that another source has been overlooked for decades. The hypothesis is that certain aminopolyphosphonates used, for example in laundry detergents, are converted to glyphosate in the sewage sludge of wastewater treatment plants."

https://phys.org/news/2024-07-glyphosate-european-rivers-farming.html

 

[Perris]

Well this is discouraging

"Professor Huhn's study suggests that another source has been overlooked for decades. The hypothesis is that certain aminopolyphosphonates used, for example in laundry detergents, are converted to glyphosate in the sewage sludge of wastewater treatment plants."

https://phys.org/news/2024-07-glyphosate-european-rivers-farming.html

very interesting - especially as the differences between the EU and the US in common detergent composition are reflected in the data. Thanks for linking.