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New to breeding....confused ???

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by daisychick, Feb 9, 2009.

  1. daisychick

    daisychick Incubator Tetris Master Consultant

    Feb 8, 2009
    Colorado
    Ok if I buy a batch of eggs from the same person and then hatch them out and they grow up and then I end up with a rooster and hens....then let them breed will the babies be inbred??? Can brothers and sisters or half-brothers and sisters breed and produce offspring that are good???
     
  2. willowcol

    willowcol Chillin' With My Peeps

    Oct 10, 2008
    Macclesfield NC
    Not sure, I would breed brother to sister. Thats why I ordered eggs from 3 different people and still have them seperated. So I can later a put them in breed cops with roo's and hens not related. I think its ok for mom - son, father - daughter but not brother sister.
     
  3. daisychick

    daisychick Incubator Tetris Master Consultant

    Feb 8, 2009
    Colorado
    yeah I was wondering if I should try ordering from 2 different people so I don't have same bloodlines.
     
  4. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    Its not the same as incest with chickens. Yes, you can breed brother to sister, but be warned, it will intensify traits, both good and bad. It's preferable to breed father to daughter or granddaughter or mother to son or grandson. If brother and sister are shining examples of the breed, they may produce spectacular offspring.
     
  5. DTchickens

    DTchickens Overrun With Chickens

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    also heard half brothers/sisters are Ok, but never tried it myself. i breed father/daughter, mother/son, Cousins.. etc.. or just introduce new blood
     
  6. Wynette

    Wynette Moderator Staff Member

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    Fertility begins to decrease the longer you line-breed, too. So, yep - IMO, always a good idea to add a different line. Others do it quite successfully, though.
     
  7. hinkjc

    hinkjc Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    It also depends on who you buy from. Personally, I keep multiple breeding pens of my breeds, so you would not always be getting brother/sisters. The only thing is, keeping track of them when you hatch to ensure you know which chicks came from which eggs and then marking them until you select who to keep to breed.
     
  8. daisychick

    daisychick Incubator Tetris Master Consultant

    Feb 8, 2009
    Colorado
    thanks to you all! I am learning a lot!!
     
  9. patandchickens

    patandchickens Flock Mistress

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    Breeding brother-sister is absolutely the exactly same degree of inbreeding as mother-son or father-daughter. Mind, brother-sister is less often done than the latter two, largely because parent-offspring breedings have the big advantage that ONE of the parties is well grown and probably progeny-tested and thus you have better assurance that they're what you're looking to breed from.

    From an inbreeding standpoint though it is exactly the same genetic thing, brother-sister or parent-offspring.

    If you are just wanting a backyard flock, not really breeding 'for' anything, it's not such a terrible thing, just know you *might* get a higher incidence of poor birds in the ensuing generations. Inject fresh blood periodically to offset.


    Pat
     
  10. chicken_dude

    chicken_dude Out Of The Brooder

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    Many of my rare breeds are inbred. Brother sister is the closest you can inbreed. Sometimes it makes the birds grow slower. My Yamato, Chu-Shamo, Satsumadori, Kimpa, Ko-Shamo Chibi, and O-Shamo are inbred to differing degrees. Some are losing some body size as a result. Its a good way to clean up the genes. I discard all birds that have a deformity.
     

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