Newtown, Conn School Shooting

[Vamvakas]

The shooter is only 1 year younger then me and he looks so strange... Kinda like 1970s person stuck in the 2000s by this pic with his look hair (he is 3rd right in the right back row)

I kinda blame the mom cause why did she buy all these guns in the 1st place? An assault rifle and 2 pistols to begin with?.. Blame her for having this and not hiding them in a big mansion house. Reports were that she took Adam Lanza to gun ranges.

 

[Q9]

For those of you who do not understand the difference in an assault rifle with a 30 round clip and a handgun with three 10 round clips then let us have a duel at about 50 yards and I get the rifle. All of your arguments come straight out of the NRA talking points which are now irrelevant. Spout them all you want but there will be changes. I am a firm believer in 2nd amendment rights and I am a gun owner but I also believe that we need changes in a lot of things that involve guns

In all fairness, the comparison is being made in the context of mass shootings, none of which (to my knowledge) have taken place at more than 10-20 or so yards. They're all close-range, indoor magazine-dump shootings. One could accompish the same thing with a revolver and a speed-loader or a pump shotgun, which would arguably be even worse in the case of a shotgun.

I really do want to know, what kind of restrictions would you support? I'm fairly sure that we all agree that violent felons should not be able to buy weapons.

 

[bkreugar]

I'd just like to somehow see it harder for people with mental illness to aquire guns. How I don't know, but clearly mentally ill people and guns is a disastrous mix. It often comes out in the aftermath that they had some kind of mental illness, and yet had they had NO problem getting guns.

I was raised in a house WITH guns, I was taught about them, I have no great interest in them. I was taught respect of them, we have a single riffle in the house that we have used on predators. My husband would LOVE to get a handgun, but I asked him to wait till my youngest (9) is either older or out of the house. The 9 yr old has too much of an interest IN guns in general for my liking. I KNOW of a hand full of kids that have suffered injuries or death due to guns. Most of those WERE taught about the guns.

One of the cases I know of from personal experience, someone i had worked with:
Dad was an avid gun enthusist. He taught his son about them and gun safety. Kept them locked up in a gun safe. Son was 15, had friend over, dad was sleeping. Son took key to dads gunsafe, he and friend were messing around with a shotgun I believe. son shot friend in leg. Father immeadiatly woke up and ran to sound. friend was shot in leg. Dad called 911 and applied a turnicut.

Friend was stabilzed at local hospital and airlifted to big hospital. In the end he will walk with limp for rest of his life, and his parents feel lucky. The dad that I worked with, prayed EVERY day for the friend. He also prayed that the friend's parents wouldn't sue him and he would lose his house. In the end the friend has a limp for the rest of his life, but the friendship survived. I found that to be an inspiration to me.

I asked dad what advice could he give me as I had a 5 yr old and baby at the time. He said if he had it to do over again he wouldn't have guns in house with kids. I took his advice for the most part. This man had done EVERYTHING to avoid this situation happening. He had guns locked up, he did NOT keep them loaded. He had the only key on his keyring.Didn;t matter, and in discussing it with my husband I could find no way to make his safety precautions any better.

I am not anti gun but I do think it should be impossible for kids and mentally ill people to get them. as of now there doesn't seem to be any barrariers to mentally ill getting guns just felons.

 

[Poultry Couture]

* unsubscribe*

Thought this thread was for support for the people's families and friends, but obliviously not... It's just a chat for arguing

 

[Judy]

Closed for staff review, though the thread has served its purpose and will probably not be reopened.