No Nonsense, chickens are livestock, advise. Tell me like it is.

Zrossk, thank you for allowing people to clear up some differences in chicken rearing.


I am different than a lot of people here. I am not a lifetime farmer, nor am I a lifetime city boy. Closer to city, than farm in experience.

I like my little farm, but I don't HAVE to depend on it for food. It's a choice.

I have made my own laundry soap this year. I have butchered my first chicken this year. I have hatched my first chickens this year. I have learned the difference between hay and straw this year. I knew before, but have eyeballed the difference. I have learned the technical difference between 1st and 2nd cutting this year. I bought my first hogs this year. I bought my first goats this year.

I got most of my advise from here.

I CHOOSE to take the advise of the farmer instead of the urban person. Why? Because that's how I fancy myself raising animals. Actually, I listen to everyone, digest it, then make a decision.
 
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No, he's serious. Because they need to be exposed to this stuff to have any immunity to it. I think you've never been to a forum that was pretty much troll free. Lighten up on that some
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Yea, honsetly this is the first forum i have seen troll free. I want to kinda pamper my chickens when i get them and not a lot of people agree with me on that so they might try and troll me. Anyway couldn't you loose a lot of chickens to disease and sickness that way?

Z just like children, chickens need natural immunization. This starts in the birth canal for a human or animal and by the dirt on the coop floor of a chicken. Just like children raised in the "Bleached" World such as the USA or Rome, Italy, those children who are not exposed to 'bugs' such as dirt, bacterias, viruses, etc. those children are WEAK and then when they are unknowingly exposed to such an organism, they get very sick and they often DIE. Chickens are just like this. If you baby them along, don't let them get natural immunity they are WEAK and they get sick and they die too. Of course there are times and reasons to treat chickens/poultry medically, but usually it is best to "Let the strong survive" and let the weak die off, so in time the bird population is strong and resilient. It is not cruel, it is called NATURE.
 
Now back to the very good thread this started out to be:

Things I think I know for sure, ha ha.

An egg is always darker brown when wet (for those buying eggs online
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A chicken WILL set herself to death
An egg will NEVER hatch if layed on the coop floor
More male chicks do hatch in an incubator, maybe they are more muscular?
You friends always expect free eggs and refuse to pay only $2.00 even if store boughts are $1.88
You family will take your very last egg, as they refuse to eat store bought and refuse to get chickens (some of them)
Roosters can get along fine with each other, depends on the breed, the bird and the size of the coop/run
Chickens rarely get sick, they run such a high body temp, and wouldn't if we didn't expose them to those organisms
If you show chickens, you risk a lot by bringing them back home with you, so maybe your best birds should never show if you breed them
Just because someone has a fabulous website and gorgeous photos, does not mean their stock is all that good
BCM cockerels and pullets make awesome chicken noodle soup, not so awesome fried chicken
Not all Apple Cider Vinegar is not created equal
Always strive to do things all natural when you can, it pays off in the long run
Chickens will come in the house if you leave the door open for even a minute
A male turkey will set on eggs for weeks on end (Maybe mine guy has an Identity crisis). They didn't hatch though
If a chick can get into its water it will. If it can drown, it will. Quail are the worst.
The loudest chick in the bunch is a rooster

I could type on this subject forever

The most important one: The more you pay for a bird, the more likely a predator will kill it. If you WANT it gone, it will live for 20 years.
 
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I'ma gonna disagree with ya a little here. What difference does it make where an egg was laid? Floor, dog box, nesting box.... Rooster is key here.... unless it is cracked.

Why do you believe that more males are hatched in an incubator? The incubator has nothing to do with it.... does it? I need to see clinical trials on that one lol!

My friends pay me and happily.... You have to train them.

I definitely agree about the pretty website.... Farmers and computer literacy.... They WORK for a living.

Hope y'all have a great Christmas!
 
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Each and every one of us has the right to keep or not keep any animal we wish so please don't think I am saying, "I'm right, you're wrong".. I'm not saying that at all... But I have a BUNCH of hood rats in my area and I can almost guarantee they would not get anywhere NEAR my hens if they entered my main pen.. About the only thing they will leave with is something bloody! I like it that way.. Again, a rooster's job is to make chicks and protect... A little mamby pamby lovebug isn't going to do anything but get himself and the flock killed... JMO...

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LOL. My best broody ALWAYS lays and sets on her eggs on the coop floor. Hatches her chicks there, broods them there etc. It's her favorite spot under the nest boxes.
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